Budget Atari and Capcom arcade cabinets to see release this fall!

[128Kgames]

Say what you want, but I think these look cool as hell:

 

 

Pac-Man is on his way...

[Tanooki]

I'll say this, if you're happy fine. Either your standards are lower, your sensitivities to the controls or lower, or you really just don't care because it works.

After having tried out the SF2CE cab they just had freshly put out at the walmart closest to me I had been fairly neutral on it, but now I'm negative. I don't mind the build level so much, wasn't expecting arcade cab thickness or durability in the body, but there are issues. The clear piece over the screen needs to be thicker than the flimsy plastic on the original GBA as any depression sets it off. The cpo area wears, but they fixed that with an overlay so that's fine, if you get one.

 

But no, the real pisser is the controls on whatever unit from all the reading. But on SF2 it was not consistent at all in doing basic things like fireballs and dragon punches. The stick just doesn't work 100% accurately enough for a precision 1on1 fighting game. I'm rusty, I'll admit as much, but I can still pull off the basic moves of any of those characters other than maybe that annoying 360 on Zangief, yet I couldn't get a chain of fireballs for a ryu vs ryu pissing contest to work, nor could I reliably pull off a 1-2 type punch/special type attack either. I know it's not the emulator or the wiring of the thing, nor some screen delay issue either, it's subpar control parts because people who have been sticking commercial grade buttons and sticks in there (which cost little more than the default crap) solves the problem. NO consumer should have to disassemble and buy accurately working parts to make a product work as promised out of the box from a third party vendor.

[negative1]

time to dip my toes in the shark infested water.

 

went to a walmart, and had my hands on the pac-man box,

so.... layaway it will be.

 

however, went there after that department was closed,

so going back tomorrow.....

 

later

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[Vrock]

I had previously said the joystick in the Galaga machine wasn't a real two way stick. I took apart my panel today, and indeed it is a two way stick. The board that it plugs into is labeled for Pac-man, Galaga, and Space Invaders, by the way. Interesting for Pac-man as it's a four way stick setup. There's actually two ports for the joystick: up/down, and right left. So I can only assume the four way stick on the upcoming Pac-man machines will have two headers to plug into the board. Anyway, thought it was interesting.

[Skeeter]

 

went to a walmart, and had my hands on the pac-man box,

so.... layaway it will be.

 

 

 

 

Say I go there and put one in layaway today and pay it off on Black Friday. Would I get the price match price of $249 when I pick it up?

 

[128Kgames]

time to dip my toes in the shark infested water.

 

went to a walmart, and had my hands on the pac-man box,

so.... layaway it will be.

 

however, went there after that department was closed,

so going back tomorrow.....

 

later

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Good for you man, congratulations and I hope you enjoy it. Fingers crossed this cab meets everybody's expectations.

 

For some reason their distribution to the East Coast seems to lake longer than everywhere else as these still haven't shown up in any stores physically nor on Brickseek (Long Island and surrounding areas).

 

But thanks to the reddit Arcade1Up group I knew Pac-Man was open to online orders so I'm having it shipped to my local store (fingers crossed its shipped internally and that there will be less physical damage to the box and contents than via UPS).

[negative1]

Say I go there and put one in layaway today and pay it off on Black Friday. Would I get the price match price of $249 when I pick it up?

at this point, although $50 is substantial.

i don't care. and the salesclerk didn't know if it would be reduced or not.

 

i think of it as paying more, just an early fee, so you don't have to put up

with the hassle of the lines, and everything else later on.

 

maybe they will or maybe they won't adjust it later.

 

if they do, great, if not, i should already have it by then.

 

i don't usually have buyers regret ever on what i purchase (except for that micro mini dig dug toy

- and i probably would have kept that also, except it had a defective screen),

and when i buy something, its for keeps regardless of discounts, and price reductions that inevitably come.

 

 

later

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Edited November 15, 2018 by negative1

[128Kgames]

I'll say this, if you're happy fine. Either your standards are lower, your sensitivities to the controls or lower, or you really just don't care because it works.

 

Happy? Yes. With everything? No. Enough to keep them? Yes. Enough to keep quite, not complain, not follow up with Arcade1Up and not let them know my 2 cents about their product, what they need to improve and what they need to change? No, no, no, no, no and no.

 

Its not always about "your standards must be lower than mine", but more often they are different. Different for these cabs, and different for a lot of other things, just like with everyone else in life.

 

Keep in mind what you played in store, built and setup by who knows and with what skill level, isn't the same as you setting up your own stuff at home. Or me setting mine up at home. And I set mine up well man, trust me, my Kung Fu is strong.

 

I went through a lot to set these cabs up right, and honestly I should rent myself out on Craigslist to build these for people now, like those people do for IKEA stuff. I'm not going to go into what I did here, but PM me and I'll be happy to fill you in.

 

My only outstanding issue control wise is still with the "spinner", which I have officially told them is not a spinner so much as it is a dial, like on my washing machine, my cars heater, etc. That, I do not like, does not represent a true arcade experience (unless they make Front Line) and will continue to ask them to come up with a real solution that doesn't involve loosening screws, adding washers or taping up and inserting coins.

 

I don't play fighting games, there're not really my thing and never really were, which is why I didn't buy the Street Fighter cab. So you see this wasn't a "standards" thing in the end, it was just a matter of choice.

 

But if the controls suck for fighting games I can see where you'd have a problem, it just comes down to how much you are, or are not, wiling to address.

[negative1]

I had previously said the joystick in the Galaga machine wasn't a real two way stick. I took apart my panel today, and indeed it is a two way stick. The board that it plugs into is labeled for Pac-man, Galaga, and Space Invaders, by the way. Interesting for Pac-man as it's a four way stick setup. There's actually two ports for the joystick: up/down, and right left. So I can only assume the four way stick on the upcoming Pac-man machines will have two headers to plug into the board. Anyway, thought it was interesting.

just to make sure about this, so it has a restrictor on the joystick making it two way.

are there also slots on the control panel too?

 

 

Good for you man, congratulations and I hope you enjoy it. Fingers crossed this cab meets everybody's expectations.

 

For some reason their distribution to the East Coast seems to lake longer than everywhere else as these still haven't shown up in any stores physically nor on Brickseek (Long Island and surrounding areas).

 

But thanks to the reddit Arcade1Up group I knew Pac-Man was open to online orders so I'm having it shipped to my local store (fingers crossed its shipped internally and that there will be less physical damage to the box and contents than via UPS).

thanks, but i don't have it yet.

i know full well what i'm getting into, so i'm not going to be surprised if its inadequate.

 

as far as brickseek goes, i've never heard of it until recently, and whatever it is,

it is completely useless, i checked it a few times, and it has never been accurate.

 

in fact, its still not showing any items near me at all, and never has.

 

so, forget that, and i suggest people looking for it do the legwork yourself, or just start calling around.

use the actual walmart app, and website, and go from there.

 

brickseek is useless.

 

later

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Edited November 15, 2018 by negative1

[Skeeter]

I was just curious about the layaway.

 

So far I've been very happy with my Atari Deluxe 12-1. I've only had it a week and other than the stiff spinner I have zero complaints and really, the spinner is not a big deal to me as I didn't get it for Tempest anyway. The wife loves Centipede and I wanted Asteroids, Asteroids Deluxe, Missile Command, and Gravitar. Toss in Millipede and a little Crystal Castles and it's been a ton of fun for the family, we love it.

 

Now, we want a Pac-Man. I won't have the cash to get it until tomorrow and we're snowed in today anyway so tomorrow I'm planning to head to my local Wally's and see. I don't think they'll have one, took them longer than the normal to get any of them in stock. But if they do I'm going to either buy it outright or see what they say about layaway.

[128Kgames]

just to make sure about this, so it has a restrictor on the joystick making it two way.

are there also slots on the control panel too?

 

later

-1

 

So on Galaga I can tell you there is a rectangular cutout, left to right, through the particle board. The round plastic disk that goes on before the joystick ball covers this up. If this is the only thing that restricts it to left and right movement, Houston, we will have a problem.

[Tanooki]

Keep in mind what you played in store, built and setup by who knows and with what skill level, isn't the same as you setting up your own stuff at home. Or me setting mine up at home. And I set mine up well man, trust me, my Kung Fu is strong.

 

I don't play fighting games, there're not really my thing and never really were, which is why I didn't buy the Street Fighter cab. So you see this wasn't a "standards" thing in the end, it was just a matter of choice.

 

But if the controls suck for fighting games I can see where you'd have a problem, it just comes down to how much you are, or are not, wiling to address.

 

They unnecessarily suck, and unless in the IKEA-esque process of putting this together, you have to assemble the entire mechanism for the joystick including attaching all the microswitches, stick mechanism, and the rest to the wiring on the board, then sure some store slob probably did foul it up, but if it's more of a plug and play setup where it's all there, and you do a few screws and attach the plug to the other plug for the wiring inside, then it's bad parts as it was just installed to the store so it had no time to get abused to death that quickly.

 

I'm not a fighting nut, but I used to be a local arcade annoyance back when SF2/CE were on the floor as I probably put too many quarters and hours into it there and on SNES at home, so while I may be rusty now I can still handle it and it was not taking the inputs I gave it every time which was a real shame as games like that demand it. That's why I called it out. And in the end even at $300, especially at $300, why is it my problem to buy more parts to address something they messed up? I mean if I wanted a cheap cabaret sized cabinet for the house, sure it's the cheaper alternative (as I read you can put a Pandora multi-game PCB in there) than some other options, but it just seems wrong the thing that drives the enjoyment of said games fails to work right. Same can be said about your and other peoples spinner issues.

[negative1]

They unnecessarily suck, and unless in the IKEA-esque process of putting this together, you have to assemble the entire mechanism for the joystick including attaching all the microswitches, stick mechanism, and the rest to the wiring on the board, then sure some store slob probably did foul it up, but if it's more of a plug and play setup where it's all there, and you do a few screws and attach the plug to the other plug for the wiring inside, then it's bad parts as it was just installed to the store so it had no time to get abused to death that quickly.

 

I'm not a fighting nut, but I used to be a local arcade annoyance back when SF2/CE were on the floor as I probably put too many quarters and hours into it there and on SNES at home, so while I may be rusty now I can still handle it and it was not taking the inputs I gave it every time which was a real shame as games like that demand it. That's why I called it out. And in the end even at $300, especially at $300, why is it my problem to buy more parts to address something they messed up? I mean if I wanted a cheap cabaret sized cabinet for the house, sure it's the cheaper alternative (as I read you can put a Pandora multi-game PCB in there) than some other options, but it just seems wrong the thing that drives the enjoyment of said games fails to work right. Same can be said about your and other peoples spinner issues.

you're in the minority of people that actually can play the game and recognize the real issues.

 

don't insult arcade 1up with comparing them to the kid-killing cabinets of IKEA,

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/about_ikea/newsitem/112117-MALM-and-Chest-of-drawers-Recall

 

[ or any of their other defects:

https://www.ikea.com/ms/en_KR/about_ikea/newsroom/product_recalls/index.html ]

 

they have way more issues with their product, and i wouldn't pay them one dime

for any of their stuff either.

 

the spinner dial is not a real issue as i've kept saying.

neither is the trackball, watch edd rays videos, where he gets to 300k on both centipede and millipede.

 

anwyays, the vast majority of people won't know, and won't care about the joystick, and will just struggle

on with them. maybe some will replace the balls with bats. (easy enough)

 

others will take the plunge and go further and do more comprehensive fixes.

 

its not as hard as it seems. but i agree, out of the box for that price most things should work.

 

but nowadays you never know, most consoles don't work out of the box, unless you patch them.

computers fail, tablets fail, and phones all fail, and they cost equal to or a lot more than $300,

and sometimes you can't even fix those.

 

later

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Edited November 15, 2018 by negative1

[128Kgames]

And in the end even at $300, especially at $300, why is it my problem to buy more parts to address something they messed up? I mean if I wanted a cheap cabaret sized cabinet for the house, sure it's the cheaper alternative (as I read you can put a Pandora multi-game PCB in there) than some other options, but it just seems wrong the thing that drives the enjoyment of said games fails to work right. Same can be said about your and other peoples spinner issues.

 

Oh, no, I agree with you here - its not our problem to buy more parts, period. If the part doesn't work, let Arcade1Up replace it.

 

If its a matter of the quality not being up to par, that's a slippery slope. The joysticks, trackballs and buttons all work and provide functionality as far as I'm concerned (keep in mind I had a crap trackball out of the box, and a new control panel did the trick).

 

I do not put the "dial" in the same group, as it is not a "spinner" which is what the arcade games had. This, Arcade1Up should replace with an actual spinner, period.

 

One tip about the joysticks: they may not be properly centered, at least on the Rampage cabs (I did not check on Galaga). I had to fix a detached wire on a control panel button and found the joysticks which are screwed and glued to the control panel were not centered. I checked a second Rampage control panel and found the same thing - the joysticks were slightly rotated to the right or to the left, which would through off the control.

 

While the joysticks could be adjusted with the existing mounting plate, the fact that they were glued in struck that idea down. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other cabs like Street Fighter had the same issue. People should pull the control panel, pop it open and check.

[Vrock]

 

just to make sure about this, so it has a restrictor on the joystick making it two way.

are there also slots on the control panel too?

 

 

On the Galaga machine there is a slot on the panel, yes. I don't think there's a restrictor on the joystick. I see two switches on the bottom of the stick, and there's only one lead going from it to the board it plugs in to. This leads me to believe this is a legit 2 way stick, abeit a cheap one as we all know. I assume Pac Man will have a legit 4 way stick with two leads going from it into the board. If this isn't clear I can take it apart again and take a picture, let me know.

[Skeeter]

 

the spinner dial is not a real issue as i've kept saying.

neither is the trackball, watch edd rays videos, where he gets to 300k on both centipede and millipede.

 

 

 

Yeah, the trackball in my Atari Deluxe 12-1 is fine, works great. IMO, It's just as good as the trackball in my Tankstick, just smaller. Maybe I got lucky, maybe it'll break next game I play, who knows. But I'm very happy with the cab as is. I would probably feel different if the spinner mattered but to me and my lack of interest in playing Tempest, it doesn't. They could have left Tempest out and included Marble Madness and the cab would be perfect.

 

Walmart's web site is now showing 4 Pac-Man in stock at my local store. Hopefully, they'll have one left when I go in tomorrow morning and try to buy or layaway one.

 

I

[Tanooki]

 

One tip about the joysticks: they may not be properly centered, at least on the Rampage cabs (I did not check on Galaga). I had to fix a detached wire on a control panel button and found the joysticks which are screwed and glued to the control panel were not centered. I checked a second Rampage control panel and found the same thing - the joysticks were slightly rotated to the right or to the left, which would through off the control.

 

While the joysticks could be adjusted with the existing mounting plate, the fact that they were glued in struck that idea down. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other cabs like Street Fighter had the same issue. People should pull the control panel, pop it open and check.

Damn seriously? That's ridiculous that the cabinet isn't internally set to where you bold it down that it has no give off the true compass positions it would be required to set to for it to work right. That's sloppy. Now you got me wondering if the stick actually is actually good/decent and it just was maybe slightly twisted throwing it off. I really did kind of want to like that thing as the games on there I'd get far more distance out of than any other they've put to market, second being the Capcom stand alone to come with Final Fight. I hated when they split the SF2/FF cabinet setup into 2 as I was actually hyped to look into buying that one and now it's vapor.

[128Kgames]

Damn seriously? That's ridiculous that the cabinet isn't internally set to where you bold it down that it has no give off the true compass positions it would be required to set to for it to work right. That's sloppy. Now you got me wondering if the stick actually is actually good/decent and it just was maybe slightly twisted throwing it off. I really did kind of want to like that thing as the games on there I'd get far more distance out of than any other they've put to market, second being the Capcom stand alone to come with Final Fight. I hated when they split the SF2/FF cabinet setup into 2 as I was actually hyped to look into buying that one and now it's vapor.

 

What's really silly is that they are easy enough to adjust as the mounting plate has "slots" for the mounting screws which allow you to move each corner slightly one way or the other to properly center the stick when you go to mount it. If they hadn't glued it to the bottom of the control panel it would have been easy to loosen the screws, adjust it and the tighten. Easy peasy lemon squeezy, right?

 

Thankfully, the the far right stick isn't that far off on the control panel I kept, and I played several rounds as the Wolf and it seems fine. The left and center sticks were dead on. The control panel I didn't keep - every one was going in its own direction...

 

These guys REALLY have to work on their quality control.

 

You don't even want to know what I found when I went to clean the Galaga monitor...

[negative1]

I hated when they split the SF2/FF cabinet setup into 2 as I was actually hyped to look into buying that one and now it's vapor.

Their wave 2 lineup.

 

Final Fight cabinet - Spring 2019

Ms pac man - 2019

Space Invaders - 2019

 

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Cocktails - TBA

Bartops - TBA

 

later

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[Flojomojo]

I could maybe sneak a cocktail into the house. Interested.

[Tanooki]

Their wave 2 lineup.

 

Final Fight cabinet - Spring 2019

Ms pac man - 2019

Space Invaders - 2019

 

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Cocktails - TBA

Bartops - TBA

 

later

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I know, well knew about that. That's why I was disappointed. The original Capcom announcement was like SF2, FF, GnG, and 1943 (or 2) all within one cabinet. That's the lineup I was interested in.

[negative1]

new control panel sticker, along with a protector for

street fighter 2, i guess they'll make replacements for

all the other ones too..

 

 

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in other news, will be helping a friend get the street fighter 2 machine.

but it will be a surprise because his office is paying for it as a christmas

gift.

 

 

later

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Edited November 16, 2018 by negative1

[Skeeter]

I went to my local Walmart this morning to try and get Pac-Man. As I expected, they have some in back but won't sell them until their Black Friday madness starts Thanksgiving evening. I would order online but they're showing OoS online now. Oh well, as much as I hate to, I might go and try to get one of the few they have in store on Thanksgiving evening. Maybe, I've never done the Black Friday thing and if I show up to a crowd of craziness I'll most likely leave.

[negative1]

I went to my local Walmart this morning to try and get Pac-Man. As I expected, they have some in back but won't sell them until their Black Friday madness starts Thanksgiving evening. I would order online but they're showing OoS online now. Oh well, as much as I hate to, I might go and try to get one of the few they have in store on Thanksgiving evening. Maybe, I've never done the Black Friday thing and if I show up to a crowd of craziness I'll most likely leave.

if you can get free thursday afternoon. the sale starts then.

that might be easier if you can work it out.

 

later

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Edited November 16, 2018 by negative1

[NE146]

I said from the start I'm not interested in any of the joystick-based Arcade1up cabs, But Walmart.com says the one 1.5 miles from me has Pacman in stock. Now I'm debating..