+sm3 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 http://www.the128rm.com/index.php?id=home or here if you speak/read German: https://www.forum64.de/index.php?thread/81460-the128rm-the-128-remastered/&postID=1254330#post1254330 So I suppose it will be something like the 64 Reloaded but for the 128 and of course not from icomp.de The 128 Remastered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Son of a ... my wallet hates me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDDuck Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Germans... I'll be keeping my eye on this project! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800fan Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 With or without built in disk drive? The few 128 games I have loads pretty dang fast vs C64 mode with anemic serial transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertB Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Scene World Podcast Episode #47 - The 128 Remastered with Peter Reichenbach https://sceneworld.org/blog/2018/05/16/128rm/ Truly,Robert BernardoFresno Commodore User Group - http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htmSouthern California Commodore & Amiga Network - http://www.portcommodore.com/sccanJune 9-10 Pacific Commodore Expo NW 2018 - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommexAug. 11-12 Commodore Vegas Expo v14 2018 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 Scene World Podcast Episode #47 - The 128 Remastered with Peter Reichenbach https://sceneworld.org/blog/2018/05/16/128rm/ Truly, Robert Bernardo Fresno Commodore User Group - http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network - http://www.portcommodore.com/sccan June 9-10 Pacific Commodore Expo NW 2018 - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex Aug. 11-12 Commodore Vegas Expo v14 2018 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex Thanks Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuphis Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Looks interesting. Is there really a big desire for a 128 though? They are awesome but they really didn't take off. If it means a lot of 128 only software being written then great. Otherwise if people are just going to type 'GO64' on it then I'm not so sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 With or without built in disk drive? The few 128 games I have loads pretty dang fast vs C64 mode with anemic serial transfer. This is made to fit inside the 64C case so no built-in drive. There are plans for SD2IEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motrucker Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Really bright idea to use a 64 case, so you don't have all the proper keys or keypad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 Really bright idea to use a 64 case, so you don't have all the proper keys or keypad. I wouldn't say that, since we have lots of new 64C cases out there, why not take advantage of it? Also, we don't really need a dedicated number pad. Any of the other keys that are needed will be remapped. Also a USB connection (I think) to use an external keyboard. You'll have to listen to the podcast linked by RobertB for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motrucker Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I wouldn't say that, since we have lots of new 64C cases out there, why not take advantage of it? Also, we don't really need a dedicated number pad. Any of the other keys that are needed will be remapped. Also a USB connection (I think) to use an external keyboard. You'll have to listen to the podcast linked by RobertB for the info. I couldn't sit through the podcast - it covers to much other none 128RM stuff. I went to Forum64 to see whats up. It looks like there will be switches implemented for things like the 40/80 display. There may be an extra port for an external keyboard, but it sounds like this hasn't been finalized. There will also need to be some hacking on the case for some of the ports. I am still not that excited about using the C-64C case, but I'll wait until the final product is ready. I am glad to see some serious interest in the 128. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) Elsewhere it was reported that Dallas Moore who unearthed the C64C molds eventually acquired by Jens and restored for production runs of new shells, also had access to C128 and Plus/4 molds. How much of that is the truth and which condition those molds would be in is unknown to me, and perhaps even if the molds exist, to restore them and make a production run of new C128 shells would be cost prohibitive given the much smaller market compared to the C64. Besides one would need new keyboards too which is an additional cost, which perhaps it why people try to cram in C128 functionality in the C64 form factor. What could be interesting are something-ATX form factor C128 boards with interface for at least PS/2, perhaps USB keyboard. You would lack some of the keys specific to the C128, but you could easily make your own tower C128 with very little overhead. Edited May 31, 2018 by carlsson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm8332 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 It does need all the vintage chips, this is why I don't think it's practical. Why not just buy a C128? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 It does need all the vintage chips, this is why I don't think it's practical. Why not just buy a C128? While it's true, you will need chips from a donor 128, a couple benefits I see from having one of these. Easier to repair/troubleshoot, because it will be socketed and you will only need to swap out the major ICs like SID, CPU, CIA etc etc.. I would assume that all of the glue logic will be implemented on the PCB the same as it is on the C64 Reloaded PCB. The other plus is the ability to fit into a nice new C64C case. I have a real 64C PCB that is all socketed that I purchased from a guy in Texas. It makes it much easier to troubleshoot and fix. But sure, if you have a working 128 and are happy with it, no need to buy. This isn't a make money project, the guy is doing this because he likes his Commodore 128. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 If you haven't been watching this project they are now at the pre-order stage for shipping in Q3 2019! Check it out: https://the128rm.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpiguy9907 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 If you haven't been watching this project they are now at the pre-order stage for shipping in Q3 2019! Check it out: https://the128rm.com/ Im very nervous that there are no screenshots or videos of this thing running. Ive seen lots of forum threads where the creator discusses testing and the results, but never any pictures. Anyone have any proof this works before I shell out 300 USD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Im very nervous that there are no screenshots or videos of this thing running. Ive seen lots of forum threads where the creator discusses testing and the results, but never any pictures. Anyone have any proof this works before I shell out 300 USD? No, I have not seen anything that like that either. The only real information apart from the website (which doesn't have much yet either) is from posts on forum64.de Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Interesting is the 80 column output is done over the S-Video output. While this looks like a very cool and involved project, without a real digital RGBI output I have to pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted December 25, 2018 Author Share Posted December 25, 2018 .. without a real digital RGBI output I have to pass. Oh really? I like the feature myself because it means 1 less monitor I need out now (can use my Sony PVM). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Oh really? I like the feature myself because it means 1 less monitor I need out now (can use my Sony PVM). For me, yeah. Mostly because I have the equipment necessary to connect RGBI to SVGA so I can use it in its full digital glory. I have concerns about the quality of the output in 80 column mode, even with a good clean S-Video signal. ::shrugs:: To be perfectly honest I am waffling a little bit, but I have a 128D and a C128 both of which work just fine and I have no need for a 64C profile. Still pretty damn neat, just not for me. Now, if this half-sized board would fit a 128 case with a full 128 keyboard and RGBI as an option, I would be much more tempted. I suppose I could build a circuit to pull the signals necessary for an RGBI port. For that matter a daughter board sitting under the 8563 which could take the RGBI outputs and do some simple conversions. Anyway, just brain-oozing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 For me, yeah. Mostly because I have the equipment necessary to connect RGBI to SVGA so I can use it in its full digital glory. I have concerns about the quality of the output in 80 column mode, even with a good clean S-Video signal. ::shrugs:: To be perfectly honest I am waffling a little bit, but I have a 128D and a C128 both of which work just fine and I have no need for a 64C profile. Still pretty damn neat, just not for me. Now, if this half-sized board would fit a 128 case with a full 128 keyboard and RGBI as an option, I would be much more tempted. I suppose I could build a circuit to pull the signals necessary for an RGBI port. For that matter a daughter board sitting under the 8563 which could take the RGBI outputs and do some simple conversions. Anyway, just brain-oozing. Yes, good points. I would like to see what the 80-column video output would look like on s-video, but since I really only use it for stuff like Merlin 128, I'm hoping the s-video will work out. For me, the sockets are the best part for easy testing and of course having less of a footprint on my desk with a fresh new case is a bonus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seastalker Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I can see both the pros and cons of this idea inspired by the atx form factor: having it compatible via new adapter with a 128D keyboard. Even if I don't get one (I have a 128) I still like all these new projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motrucker Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I suppose I could build a circuit to pull the signals necessary for an RGBI port. For that matter a daughter board sitting under the 8563 which could take the RGBI outputs and do some simple conversions. Anyway, just brain-oozing. I don't see why, after dropping $300.00 we should still have to adapt anything. This might a great idea for some, just not me. I'll stick with the old C-128 with the extra video RAM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 I don't see why, after dropping $300.00 we should still have to adapt anything. This might a great idea for some, just not me. I'll stick with the old C-128 with the extra video RAM. I think we should wait to see the results before we write it off. Nobody said you had to adapt anything after paying $300. I still have and use a real 128 (with 1571s) myself but am picking up one of these for future use. There are over 163 orders so far that I can see so apparently I'm not alone in thinking it will be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 The issue was if you have a monitor setup that somehow displays RGB but not S-Video (or don't trust the quality of the onboard conversion from RGBI to S-Video), and thus would need to make modifications. If you're fine with the video outputs the manufacturer offers, no further mods will be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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