rmzalbar Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I'm interested in purchasing one of these carts. Do you sell them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Worley Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I just copied the .car files to my AVG cart and have it operating as a PBI Side2. It ate a sector copy of my Side2's sd card and works completely plug-and-play. I'm impressed as heck. Props to FJC!!!! Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Worley Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, flashjazzcat said: I can verify that SIDE2 IDE emulation also got a lot faster with the latest AVG firmware update. Latest firmware as of today for U1MB, Side2, and AVG cart. All tests in PBI mode. SI2 Benchmarks: Side2: DMA On/DMA Off Read Sequence: 65 kbytes@sec / 91kbytes@sec Read Backwards: 62 / 88 Read Random: 62 / 87 Read same sector: 63 / 89 AVG Cart: Read Sequence: 48 kbytes@sec / 61 kbytes@sec Read Backwards: 48 / 61 Read Random: 48 / 61 Read same sector: 49 / 62 This compares to a Black Box with a 1gig Toshiba SCSI hard disk, which, since SI2 did not exist when I owned it, I can only give my stopwatch figure. DMA ON/OFF: 24kbytes@sec / 33kbytes@sec Best, Jeff Edited April 29, 2020 by Jeffrey Worley Tab does not work in this editor and causes trouble if you try to use TAB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Hello Doctor, Marcin, guys 3 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: Not only functional, but looks much nicer! Cool! My thoughts exactly. Sincerely Mathy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jeffrey Worley said: Latest firmware as of today for U1MB, Side2, and AVG cart. All tests in PBI mode. SI2 Benchmarks: Side2: DMA On/DMA Off Read Sequence: 65 kbytes@sec / 91kbytes@sec Read Backwards: 62 / 88 Read Random: 62 / 87 Read same sector: 63 / 89 AVG Cart: Read Sequence: 48 kbytes@sec / 61 kbytes@sec Read Backwards: 48 / 61 Read Random: 48 / 61 Read same sector: 49 / 62 This compares to a Black Box with a 1gig Toshiba SCSI hard disk, which, since SI2 did not exist when I owned it, I can only give my stopwatch figure. DMA ON/OFF: 24kbytes@sec / 33kbytes@sec Best, Jeff Using CF-3 adapter (CF based dual drive) in my 1088XLD, I get: SDX 4.49 with DMA Off (VBXE driver) Read - 90kB/sec Write - 80kB/sec Amazing setup for someone that started with a 410 (600 baud), later got a 300 baud modem, a 19.2kBaud disk drive, went to 3X SIO, and now - 90kB/sec! Insanity on this old machine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheMontezuma Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Wow ? You and Zaxon are working at the same time on the Turbo Tape support. Two different approaches: I'm looking forward to play with both solutions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemiel Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yes, just go! Can you write something more about this last movie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 it's a demo of currently very beta and buggy cas emulation via that sio cable described on the previous pages here i wanted to do only basic cas support but i've found out that standard tape loading on atari is extremely boring and annoying so i added some preliminary turbo support (pwm chunks) unfortunately the issue i've ran into is the lack of test files, i tried making some using turgen and testing them in atari800 with liba8cas support (is it really the only emulator that supports pwm chunks? really?) to make sure they really work but i've been mostly unsuccessful in getting it work even in emulator so i'm done for now (i'm apparently incompatible with ui of those programs and after a while i had a urge to murder people which is not super useful) so feel free to provide me some cas + loader (car/rom/xex or even included in cas) combinations that can be verified in any emulator, i'll be grateful 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMontezuma Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Take a look at: http://cas-archive.pigwa.net/download.htm and here: http://seban.pigwa.net/uicr0bee/tapes/ or there: http://www.atari.org.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12348 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 What kind of CAS ?!? a) CAS created on the PC, they do have the FUJI header, contain info for baudrate and whatnot b) CAS created on the A8, no Fuji header, just plain binary tape data... I am using type b) on my A8 computers with several C-Simulators to load them with 19k2 Baud from diskette. Of course not every tape (casfile) works from diskette, due to protections and used memory but approx. 80%-85% from 800 tested tapes do work fine with one CSIM or the other. There is also another 5%-10% of tapes which I can simply freeze, using three different software-freezers (which do create self-running bootdisks)... For type b) I can send you several ATR images in DOS 2 format with just the data (plain binary files) on it and no CSIM... for type a) there are several (PC) CAS archives on the internet, e.g. the ones Montezuma mentioned above... Find attached a few (PC) CAS files from my collection. Note that the following files do require Basic: A Day at the Races (Start), Fruit Pickin (CLOAD), Fruit Salad (CLOAD), Hubert (CLOAD, lame+old german type-in listing, please wait init. 3 minutes!). Think I created only five of these CASfiles, all the rest were created by others... Last not least, if the opponents do not appear in Knock Out, just press any key on the keyboard and if you cannot find the key named "anykey", use spacebar instead... PC_CASfiles.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Can't wait for my cable parts to arrive...So much to test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Holy carp! I only suggested turbo tape loading on April 26 and you got it running already?! Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 15 hours ago, CharlieChaplin said: Find attached a few (PC) CAS files from my collection. Note that the following files do require Basic: A Day at the Races (Start), Fruit Pickin (CLOAD), Fruit Salad (CLOAD), Hubert (CLOAD, lame+old german type-in listing, please wait init. 3 minutes!). Think I created only five of these CASfiles, all the rest were created by others... Last not least, if the opponents do not appear in Knock Out, just press any key on the keyboard and if you cannot find the key named "anykey", use spacebar instead... PC_CASfiles.zip 355.93 kB · 3 downloads although those files are not turbo (no pwm chunks), some of them contain fsk chunks which i still need to implement so they should be useful for testing, thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Sadly I've somehow mixed all my cas images in with each other striving to sort my mess, sorry collection, out. Sergey, have you still got the images turbo tapes as a collection? Please post if you have.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I finally ordered an AVG cart and it is in transit. can't wait for it to arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Blue sky thinking here. Is it possible for the AVG cart to load a cart image and a disk image at the same time? There are a few carts that need companion disks or a DOS disk to use them. The menu wont allow the picking of more than one item but if the cart can handle it maybe some sort of mechanism could be created to allow this? maybe a text file listing the different files to load or a directory with a file extension so with all the files in that the menu knows to treat as a single item? Is it possible for the AVG cart to feed audio back to the Atari via the SIO port? Stereo cas files or cas files with accompanying mp3 spring to mind. I'm guessing pin 11 isn't connected so this isn't possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr Robot said: Is it possible for the AVG cart to load a cart image and a disk image at the same time? There are a few carts that need companion disks or a DOS disk to use them. The menu wont allow the picking of more than one item but if the cart can handle it maybe some sort of mechanism could be created to allow this? maybe a text file listing the different files to load or a directory with a file extension so with all the files in that the menu knows to treat as a single item? that is planned in some way, technically you can select atr using tab and then run car even now (needs a tweak to actually work, currently it will ignore one of those files) 6 minutes ago, Mr Robot said: Is it possible for the AVG cart to feed audio back to the Atari via the SIO port? Stereo cas files or cas files with accompanying mp3 spring to mind. I'm guessing pin 11 isn't connected so this isn't possible. this is not planned, get fujinet ;-) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Moon on a stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 hours ago, tmp said: although those files are not turbo (no pwm chunks), some of them contain fsk chunks which i still need to implement so they should be useful for testing, thanks Aha, so you need (PC) CAS files then for testing. Sorry, I never used/owned any kind of turbo-tape and therefore never created any turbo-tape files. Even today I am still loading tapes with standard 600 Baud to convert them into bootdisks. I was never really interested in turbo-tape format since there are way too many different formats and I did not bother to make loading from tape a little faster, instead I bought a disk drive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Mr Robot said: Is it possible for the AVG cart to load a cart image and a disk image at the same time? (just to prevent any confusion, this is not a stock avgcart, it has sio cable added which is a diy mod) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 when running the SDX car on avg and IDE mode is on you have hard drive and cartridge running at the same time within AVG... but not an atr... could be interesting to see that happen both in the cartridge space and the sio space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Finally my Ali Express bits arrive, lets build this bad boy...Don't think the leads on it will be enough so will butcher an SIO cable... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 That was quick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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