FND Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Just getting ready to list some VERY early Channel F PCB's and Proto's and sinceI already have the pictures uploaded I figured I would post them here in case anyonewas interested in seeing how the PCB DEVELOPMENT progressed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Ooops forgot to point out the MISSING Copyright line at BOTTOM of the First NUMBER 2 Cart I posted aboveNotice all labeled carts SAY "ENCODED PROGRAM © FAIRCHILD 1976" But the number 2 above does nothave that line printed at bottom of label Also not sure what the N / R hand written on the DEMO CARTRIDGE. Maybe Not Released or possibly somethingto do with TESTING like maybe the R stands for Repair ? In any event I tested them all and all work perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Wow, I’ve always guessed wrong that epoxy blobs were a newer thing than ROM chips. For prototypes they probably ordered what they could get made. I love the gold plating in the classic electronics. Wasn’t there a demand for early Intel processors because they have something like $23 in gold each, at today’s prices? Proud owner of the original release model: Fairchild Video Entertainment System I recently bought locally from a seller who was amazed this 50 year old buyer knew what it actually was! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Wow, I’ve always guessed wrong that epoxy blobs were a newer thing than ROM chips. For prototypes they probably ordered what they could get made. I love the gold plating in the classic electronics. Wasn’t there a demand for early Intel processors because they have something like $23 in gold each, at today’s prices? Proud owner of the original release model: Fairchild Video Entertainment System I recently bought locally from a seller who was amazed this 50 year old buyer knew what it actually was! Actually I think these CLEAR EPOXY blobs were an early 1st attempt at using the surface mount type chips ? thinking the flow over the data line (very small attached wires) was causing shorting or other problems, maybe trouble keeping them separated during the application. Its very interesting to see them on full size boards. Still thinking maybe they were only wanting to have a view at the connections so used clear epoxy ? BTW Just pulled a bunch more. Most are from a collection I picked many years ago from an EX Employees son, Could possibly be a early promotional set used to gauge interest before release ? Not all are from this set as I have collected these since 1990 or so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 chip on board, which is still used today is not that much different than placing a chip in a ... well chip instead of wirebonding to a metal frame its wired to a metal trace on a pcb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) chip on board, which is still used today is not that much different than placing a chip in a ... well chip instead of wirebonding to a metal frame its wired to a metal trace on a pcb These chips are NOT connected to the pcb in a well type connection THEY have each data line connected with a small wire, they can all be seen using a loop. EDIT After re-reading I think thats what you were describing Additionally if you ever get a CHANNEL F game with the small round or square plastic covers like the ones pictured on the EVALUATION carts pictured above, and the cover comes loose it will bounce around in the closed cart and will most likely break some wire connections and cause the game to stop working. Also the first type (square style cover) use little holes in the PCB that the black cover has small pins that they press into and are much more secure than the ROUND covers that are just glued in place EDIT: LAST These plastic covered chips do not use any epoxy at all, the wires are open and accessible once the small plastic cover is removed Edited June 9, 2018 by FND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazzeri Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Amazing! Congratulations! :-) Also not sure what the N / R hand written on the DEMO CARTRIDGE. Maybe Not Released or possibly somethingto do with TESTING like maybe the R stands for Repair ? In any event I tested them all and all work perfectly Maybe "No Resale"? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 Amazing! Congratulations! :-) Maybe "No Resale"? Nice Guess, that one did not occur to me. What went through my mind originally was "Needs Repair" but thankfully it works just as it should BTW I was a little bored and put this together as an example of the Time Line according to the PCB development, Also have some links to my DATA Base of all date codes found on cart covers Here is a link to the NUMBER 1 Dates (never finished it still have many more to enter) http://fndcollectables.com/CHANNEL_F_INFO/U_S_/Board_Dates/CART__1/cart__1.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 These chips are NOT connected to the pcb in a well type connection THEY have each data line connected with a small wire, they can all be seen using a loop. EDIT After re-reading I think thats what you were describing yea even in most chips its still a small wire going from package leads to chip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 All these years and I just noticed something COULD the FOOTBALL board also contain the SLOT MACHINE & CHECKERS Games ? NOTICE the bottom right corner of my picture above of all the PCBs and notice theSlot Machine & Checkers are contained on the same game, JUST need to switch the jumper. BUT just noticed the FOOTBALL game PCB Looks the same and the jumper is attached to a differenthole ? NO JUMPER for SLOT MACHINE TOP JUMPER for CHECKERS BOTTOM JUMPER for FOOTBALL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e5frog Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I tested but my SLOT/CHECKERS boards doesn't work as Football with that jumper setting. Haven't got one of those for Football, who knows if there are hidden treasures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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