doctor_x Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 this is a hot project... and yes, the XEGS option for a keyboard ROCKS .. I am definitely interested in this. I have wanted to run an Atari BBS on real hardware - but real hardware is prone to failure after all these years.. This would be a great option to run one on fresh hardware with no fear of failure for many years... Thanks for putting this together! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Here is my design for a case. The prototype is in the post, Im hoping it fits together ok! http://www.64kib.com/redmine/news/55 Ill post pictures later this week... Happy to share stl files and openscad design. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 I wait impatient for pictures from the real thing! Looks nice. I like the grilles at the back side like the original Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandor Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Happy to share stl files and openscad design. Looks awesome and wouldn't mind the stl files. It would be nice to print a case for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 The case arrived. I need to fix a several things, mostly pretty simple! While I'm happy to share the design files now, probably best to wait... In any case its sitting in the case playing SillyPack2018 right now:-)Here are some pics as promised: 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Wow - looks great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farb Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Love it, love it, love it! Can't wait to get my hands on one Fantastic work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 SELL ME YOUR CASE NOW!!!! (and one for the older board too LOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Wow that is frickin awesome . How much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hot DAMN! Looks great. I'm getting my (new) office and workbench back in order. I'll VERY SOON be upgrading my Eclaire beta from v13 to v31!!! Sucks that it's been boxed away for so long, but real life just will not stop getting in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Wow that is frickin awesome . How much? Well the printing was about £45(about £15 top, £15 bottom, £5 cart cover + shipping) with ABS .1mm. + screws and thread inserts (not arrived yet). I didnt go for the best quality, eg I was advised it was better to print the top the other way up! Ill probably pay more for the final run. Now I have a few things to sort out. To take a few examples (there are more!) there are some gaps between ports on the back were too narrow and thus unprintable or snapped. It was hard to install since the pbi guide is where the board needs to be and the top was quite warped. It might screw down ok, not sure yet. So, working on these adjustments for v2. Ill put the openscad files and stl files in svn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariNerd Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 With the added case, it helps move perception from it being a hobbyist exercise always in flux, that someone would need to take care with, to becoming a finished product, that more casual users might be willing to use. I'd still like console keys on the machine, but would be willing to accept short-cuts on a USB k/b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 With that design, it should rather be renamed to EclaireXE :-) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) I've put the latest stl files on the svn:http://www.64kib.com/atarixlfpga_svn/trunk/atari_800xl/eclaireXL_ITX/hardware/case/mini/stl/case_common_top_v2.stlhttp://www.64kib.com/atarixlfpga_svn/trunk/atari_800xl/eclaireXL_ITX/hardware/case/mini/stl/case_common_bottom_v2.stl http://www.64kib.com/atarixlfpga_svn/trunk/atari_800xl/eclaireXL_ITX/hardware/case/mini/stl/Cartridge%20v8%20top_up.stl The openscad design files are here:http://www.64kib.com/atarixlfpga_svn/trunk/atari_800xl/eclaireXL_ITX/hardware/case/mini/I think I have fixed all the issues from the prototype (see v1 files in same svn folder), specifically: cartridge port too narrow for some carts pbi slot surround clashes with board hard to fit (removed plastic above switch and vga port and widened by 2mm). board actually sits higher than expected, adjusted by 1.5mm. plastic between ports too thin, widened slightly. In the previous it looks to fit my rendered board well, though I've not printed it yet so there may be errors. I also have yet to fit the threaded inserts to the top (https://www.tappex.co.uk/products/inserts-plastics/multisert?type=unheaded&thread=M3&length=5.2&extras=#selector) so I'm not sure if it will screw together properly. Anyway I thought I'd share it in its current state. For the cartridge adaptor, I put this on the board with nylon screws (there are traces nearby). I also am re-printing it with the tabs in the X/Y dimension since I had one snap off. If anyone wants to print it with EclaireXE instead, the openscad files are there . There is also a parameter casexexpand that can be set to 32mm instead of 2mm, if you want to permanently install the pbi adaptor in the case. Edited February 24, 2019 by foft 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor / HARD Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Wow, this case looks great! Since it's not a commercial product... Could it not have the Atari logo? It'd look even cooler in my opinion. BTW, how accurate is this machine? Can it run REHARDEN without any sound/gfx glitches? (it's got pretty tight timing) ...and does it have the non-linear audio mixing feature I know from Altirra? (that's how I tested HARDBASS outside of testing on real HW) Edited February 28, 2019 by Sandor / HARD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Reharden works and sounds correct as far as I can tell. I had to buy new speakers for the bass though! The non-linear mixing is handled by a linear piece-wise curve and multiplier, see the bottom of this file. http://www.64kib.com/atarixlfpga_svn/trunk/atari_800xl/common/a8core/pokey_mixer.vhdl Yes the Atari logo could be added, not sure Im brave enough though! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor / HARD Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Reharden works and sounds correct as far as I can tell. I had to buy new speakers for the bass though! LOL! It all sounds very good. BTW, is deploying/debugging via WUDSN possible in some fashion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Debugging is not implemented. It could be done in future using the jtag I guess. I was thinking about doing that for the companion cpu (used for firmware/drive emulation) but hadnt considered it for the 6502. Another option for debugging, there is a built-in turbo freezer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draugr Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Hi everyone. I just stumbled upon this thread. Looks like a great project. I take it that it isn't officially released yet, but once it is I'm interested in one and if those awesome looking cases are sold, I'm in for one of those too. Oh, I am curious if the SIDE2 cart would be compatible with this? I have one with lots of games on it from my modded 600. Also, I was going to pick up a XEGS keyboard to use with this. I have a XEGS system, but want to get a dedicated keyboard to use specifically with this system and not take away the one from my XEGS. Thanks, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt808 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Any interest in an XL-themed, 3D-printable case? This model was based on measurements of foft's v2 case but I have no way to verify for fit. If you have an eclaireXL and the means to print and test, PM me. Footprint is slightly reduced so it should print on a wider variety of printers. Models are arranged to print without supports. You will also need to print foft's cartridge guide. The cover is blank for now. I was planning to add a version with an indentation for affixing a brushed-metal Atari logo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foft Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Looks great, so we have an XE and an XL option now:) I have yet to print my v2 case. Sven tried it and it fitted well except some thin parts broke when removing supports. What software did you design it with? Are you willing to share design files and stl files? Now what colour paint were we meant to use to match the xl? I remember a thread about it. With all these case options we might need to consider making more boards! Edited April 14, 2019 by foft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 HI foft, will there be an update of the mini's core to v31? Panos told me that the cores are not compatible between the mini and the ITX version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 HI foft, will there be an update of the mini's core to v31? Panos told me that the cores are not compatible between the mini and the ITX version. The mini cores are in here: http://www.64kib.com/autobuild/private/prototype_v3/ Note there were two versions of the mini, probably you have the larger A4 fpga (so choose _a4...). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt808 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 These were created with Tinkercad, editable with Tinkercad, Meshmixer, FreeCAD, ... STLs are now up on Thingiverse with app links to 3rd party print vendors. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3562690 What software did you design it with? Are you willing to share design files and stl files? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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