Clint Thompson #1 Posted June 9, 2003 Please submit any/all photos of your Atari Falcon (or clone) setup to: ("[email protected]") Include any spces, information, story, etc. along with it you would like to add. Also, feel free to submit any original artwork created using any Atari computers! I will post a link in the following weeks for everyone to be directed to see everyone's systems!! Clint Thompson *c'mon, let's see those babies!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #2 Posted June 9, 2003 Falcon? Sorry I'm a TT030 man... Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #3 Posted June 9, 2003 Haha... I see TT's are actually hard to come by then Falcons I think. (at least, I haven't been able to get a TT , heh) and it's more for business aps from my understanding. (never used one Hell, go ahead and submit your TT setup! Both are interesting Clint Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #4 Posted June 9, 2003 Yeah I got my TT030 just because. Personally I'd probably trade it for a Falcon if given the oppertunity since I bearly use it. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sauron #5 Posted June 10, 2003 Not that I have a Falcon, but I'd be more than willing to take that TT030 off your hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #6 Posted June 10, 2003 Actually I guess this offer is open to anyone. I have a TT030 that I'd trade for a Falcon. I know the TT030 is rarer, but I'm more into games and the Falcon has less compatibility problems (because it has a Blitter). So if anyone has been looking for a TT030 let me know. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2600 #7 Posted June 11, 2003 why not a ST setups?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #8 Posted June 11, 2003 Come to think of it, sure! Why not!? Just an Atari Computer Showcase in general! Send them in!!! [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2600 #9 Posted June 11, 2003 My dig cam is crapped out but I will find my ways Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #10 Posted June 11, 2003 Cool! Looking forward to it, especially since no one has submitted _anything_ yet, heh. Hmm, tough crowd! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lais #11 Posted July 8, 2003 Cool! Looking forward to it, especially since no one has submitted _anything_ yet, heh. Hmm, tough crowd! Nobody? OK, I'll send you mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2600 #12 Posted July 8, 2003 Post em here because the toshiba dealership is charging too much for a repair so I gess I will just have to buy a new one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayreon #13 Posted July 9, 2003 I don't know about the compatibility problems on a TT, but it does have a blitter as far as i know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #14 Posted July 9, 2003 I don't know about the compatibility problems on a TT, but it does have a blitter as far as i know. I heard just the opposite. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sauron #15 Posted July 9, 2003 The TT030 has no blitter chip, but what's weird is that the Mega ST (of all machines) DOES have one. Why they left it out of the TT030 is beyond me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #16 Posted July 9, 2003 Sauron, I could have sworn the TT to have a BLiTTER as well. Maybe there's a way to upgrade them, because memory rings a bell with TT and BLiTTER... hmmm Clint Thompson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #17 Posted July 9, 2003 I heard the left it out to reduce costs since it really didn't need it (the TT was supposed to be a workstation not a home computer). Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lais #18 Posted July 9, 2003 I heard the left it out to reduce costs since it really didn't need it (the TT was supposed to be a workstation not a home computer). Tempest The TT didn't need it because the 68030 is faster at the same operations, not because it's a workstation rather than a home computer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayreon #19 Posted July 9, 2003 Ok i looked it up and found a pretty reaible page for the specs. http://www.uni-mainz.de/~heuno000/atari/at...i-computer.html Looks like the TT indeed has no blitter although i too would have sworn it had one. I know that later models of the mega ST didn't had a blitter, just an empty socket or place on the PCB to put a blitter on. Anyhow since the normal ST hasn't got a blitter it won't matter when it comes to compatibility. The normal STE is very compatible as far my experiences go. Except for demo's and such that used trickery that couldn't be done on the STE. There also might be a slight color difference between the ST and the STE cos of the new palette. I don't know if the Mega STE can be switched back to 8Mhz, if not then games/demos that use tricks that are timing sensitive might bug out. The TT has the same problems.. not to mention the Falcon. Thats an entire different beast and has lots of compatibility problems when it comes to games and demo's. Eventhough programs like Backward(s) do help, but i don't think it's 50/50. The YM in the Falcon seems to be a tad too much different for a lot of sound using programs. The clock frequence difference bombs out all timing sensitive software. I guess a normal ST or STE would be best if you only want it for playing ST games. I'll try to make some pics of my 16/32 bit Atari computers and scrapeyard. Any prefferences for resolution and such? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sauron #20 Posted July 9, 2003 The TT didn't need it because the 68030 is faster at the same operations, not because it's a workstation rather than a home computer. Are you sure about that? I thought the Blitter's clock speed scaled with the processor speed throughout the line, ensuring that it would still take large memory shifts off the CPU? And doesn't the Falcon have a Blitter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayreon #21 Posted July 10, 2003 Yeah the Falcon does have a blitter wich is a little souped up compared to the older ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lais #22 Posted July 10, 2003 The TT didn't need it because the 68030 is faster at the same operations, not because it's a workstation rather than a home computer. Are you sure about that? I thought the Blitter's clock speed scaled with the processor speed throughout the line, ensuring that it would still take large memory shifts off the CPU? And doesn't the Falcon have a Blitter? Yes I'm sure, and it has more to do with architectural efficiency than clock speed. The 68030 can outperform the blitter. The Falcon does have a blitter, correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lais #23 Posted July 10, 2003 I don't know if the Mega STE can be switched back to 8Mhz Yes, it can. In fact, 8 MHz is the default. You have to switch it to one of the two 16 MHz modes, one with cache, one without. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+rdemming #24 Posted July 10, 2003 The problem with the Atari blitter is that it can't run in parallel with the main processor. Thus when the blitter is busy, the 680x0 is waiting. (BTW the Amiga blitter could run in parallel with the 68000). Next the blitter is 16 bit while the 68030 in the TT is 32 bit. This and the 32Mhz clockspeed of the TT 68030 makes the 68030 software blitter emulation faster than a hardware blitter. On the other hand, the 16 Mhz 68030 in the Falcon is a 68030ec version. This is a 68030 with a 16 bit databus effectively cripling the 32 bitness of the 68030. This made it worthwhile to have a 16Mhz blitter in the Falcon. Regards, Robert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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