Expanded OS?

[Gunstar]

I posed this question in the patched OS for faster FP routines thread, but decided to start a new topic as it might not get noticed as much in that thread:

 

I don't suppose anyone has ever thought of, if possible, creating larger than 16K OS's so that a we can have a patched OS that does everything we want from many different custom OS's? maybe some kind of banking schemed OS, or for expanded memory systems just have a larger 32K/48/64K OS and footprint in memory, and have routines that redirect memlo, or move the OS to extended memory like is an option for SDX to reside there, etc. for legacy programs to work with an expanded OS and expanded memory? I'd love to take OS's like MyBIOS/MyIDE and Ominimon, Omniview 80, 57/126K highspeed SIO OS, Warp+, fast math routines, etc. and combine their unique features into one super-OS.

[_The Doctor__]

I don't see that we can't make it work in 16k after optimizations and replacements and using the load in provision as done with the 1400 series where additional rom loads in the rest of the goodies. I would use that template.

Edited September 28, 2018 by _The Doctor__

[Gunstar]

cool. And the modular thing JFC talked about in the other thread would be fine too. I just figured it couldn't all fit into 16K since no one seems to have tried and we have all these different OS's with different things they do.

 

Qmeg stuff too...

 

I'm just tired of switching OS's for different uses and having to sacrifice some advanced OS option for another. One that encompasses it all or most, would be wonderful.

Edited September 28, 2018 by Gunstar

[_The Doctor__]

in so many words they are kind of one and the same...

 

even with almost everything under rom etc, you may still need to swap out for special cases, though this can be overcome in some instances by UN-linking the offending thing.. bobterm does this sort of thing as well as sparta, but stand alone utilities and such are also made for other DOS etc.

Edited September 28, 2018 by _The Doctor__

[ACML]

The Omniview 80 OS is a bit of a Frankenstein. I love this OS and all my 1200XLs have this and the 800XL OS in them.

 

Omniview 80 OS

---------------------------------------------------------

1) Based on the Atari 400/800 OSb so it's 99% compatible with the OSb.

2) Unlike 400/800 OSb, it is a true 64K OS, so you can play 64K games with it.

3) It has an 80 column character set you can use in BASIC, Assembler, and Microsoft Basic

4) Has the Fast Math floating point routines.

5) Has a built in ATR-8000 monitor feature to act as a dumb terminal for the ATR-8000

[+mytek]

The Omniview 80 OS is a bit of a Frankenstein. I love this OS and all my 1200XLs have this and the 800XL OS in them.

 

Omniview 80 OS

---------------------------------------------------------

1) Based on the Atari 400/800 OSb so it's 99% compatible with the OSb.

2) Unlike 400/800 OSb, it is a true 64K OS, so you can play 64K games with it.

3) It has an 80 column character set you can use in BASIC, Assembler, and Microsoft Basic

4) Has the Fast Math floating point routines.

5) Has a built in ATR-8000 monitor feature to act as a dumb terminal for the ATR-8000

 

Is there a place to download this?

[Rybags]

Strangely the extended OS idea hasn't really been taken on.

SpartaDos is probably the closest thing, and the extended OSes we do have like the much faster FP do their thing by removing other features.

It would be nice to have a bankable OS with everything - maybe the best way would be to put all the extensions as pageable to the FP area - which in a sense is sticking to the XL architecture as offboard PBI handlers work in a similar way.

 

My OS would have - built in Dos and Ramdisk, hotkey to enter monitor, hotkey to perform memory snapshot, 64 and 80 column handlers, standard or faster FP, game cheat functionality (patching and collision clear).

[Kyle22]

The Omniview 80 OS is a bit of a Frankenstein. I love this OS and all my 1200XLs have this and the 800XL OS in them.

 

Omniview 80 OS

---------------------------------------------------------

1) Based on the Atari 400/800 OSb so it's 99% compatible with the OSb.

2) Unlike 400/800 OSb, it is a true 64K OS, so you can play 64K games with it.

3) It has an 80 column character set you can use in BASIC, Assembler, and Microsoft Basic

4) Has the Fast Math floating point routines.

5) Has a built in ATR-8000 monitor feature to act as a dumb terminal for the ATR-8000

 

If this works for the ATR-8000, it should work on Indus CP/M.

[_The Doctor__]

um no it would have to be modified for the indus I think.. But I could give it a try...

[WIZZARD77]

What about MyBios by Mr. Atari. This is what I use. Tons of features and compatibility. http://www.mr-atari.com/Mr.Atari/MyBIOS/

[ACML]

 

Is there a place to download this?

Here it is.

http://atari.fox-1.nl/atari-400-800-xl-xe/400-800-xl-xe-tools/omniview-roms-and-manual/

Edited September 29, 2018 by ACML

[Gunstar]

The Omniview 80 OS is a bit of a Frankenstein. I love this OS and all my 1200XLs have this and the 800XL OS in them.

 

Omniview 80 OS

---------------------------------------------------------

1) Based on the Atari 400/800 OSb so it's 99% compatible with the OSb.

2) Unlike 400/800 OSb, it is a true 64K OS, so you can play 64K games with it.

3) It has an 80 column character set you can use in BASIC, Assembler, and Microsoft Basic

4) Has the Fast Math floating point routines.

5) Has a built in ATR-8000 monitor feature to act as a dumb terminal for the ATR-8000

That"s why I wondered if ATR-8000 or CA-2001 CP/M was forty column only, because while scanning the Omniview manual, it mentioned usng it with CP/M! I must have missed the part where it was for dumb terminal use.More features than I realized, but unfortunately no high-speed SIO...

[Gunstar]

 

If this works for the ATR-8000, it should work on Indus CP/M.

Yes, and my CA-2001 CP/M...

[_The Doctor__]

whatever cpm you use, the terminal must be defined to cpm to make it work.... who needs slashes!

Edited September 29, 2018 by _The Doctor__