MrMaddog Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Well...all those games running in tile mode on a huge flatscreen makes Xformer 10 the ultimate frontend experience for running Atari 8-bit games! Yes Altirra is more accurate and Atari800Plus works well with frontends, but there's always room for another emulator that does things differently. And thanks to the guys at Emulators.com for setting me down the path of the sorcery known as emulation. I've read about PC Xformer and Gemulator 25 years ago in Current Notes and that made it easier for me to upgrade (like it or not) to the Wintel platform. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Some would emulators are a ghastly way or ghostly way to enjoy classic computing. BOOOO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 This is really cool. It feeds ADD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmischief Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Ummm...where can I download this from? The site doesn't have any download link for it, at least that I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Ummm...where can I download this from? The site doesn't have any download link for it, at least that I can find. under the picture it says.... http://www.emulators.com/freefile/xformer10.zip if you read it and click it you got it. Edited October 15, 2018 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmischief Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 under the picture it says...read it and click it you got it. DOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atariry Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just downloaded and "installed". I like the simplicity of the installer . Found an ATR and had Boulderdash up and running in less than a minute. I rarely use emulators, but for the occasional game (or demoing to friends), Xformer10 is perfect. Many thanks for releasing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I love it when people think out of the box. This is a novel and well thought out variation on the traditional emulator. It may not be as accurate as Altirra but it appears the creators weren’t looking for that market. As a frontend that auto configures screen and controller and plays most games and formats it hits the mark. Given the feedback from this release a very good addition to the Atari emulation scene will only get better in a short time. I’ll still be using Altirra but this addition will be great when I am looking to instantly select and play something from the Atari software smorgasbord. Well done developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I forgot to mention the “time warp” function is spot on for some of us older gamers who’s reactions aren’t as quick as they were 30 years ago. Once again, we’ll done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yautja Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I just tried Xformer 10. I cannot have ATR, XEX, or other programs running. Neither using the File-> Open Folder not the drag'n drop feature. What could be wrong? - Y - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baktra Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I do not consider failed acid tests a problem when the real world apps work fine. It might not be obvious, the emulator runs on Windows 7 too. Anyone tried wine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 looks great, but can't get this working the way others have. installed 64-bit version on my 8gb win10, 64-bit laptop. - as per instructions dragged relevant file to desktop. emulator boots up and will load however many VMs (tiled) as i like. am unable to load ATRs directly to it, either via a menu option or drag n drop. the ONLY way I can ever get software to load is to drag an ATR over the xformer icon on the desktop anyone and clues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yautja Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Seem you have to drag'n drop a few files ONCE to the desktop icon.. and after that, then you can load files from a folder. http://atariteca.blogspot.com/2018/12/como-instalar-xformer-10-emulador-de.html Regards, - Y - looks great, but can't get this working the way others have. installed 64-bit version on my 8gb win10, 64-bit laptop. - as per instructions dragged relevant file to desktop. emulator boots up and will load however many VMs (tiled) as i like. am unable to load ATRs directly to it, either via a menu option or drag n drop. the ONLY way I can ever get software to load is to drag an ATR over the xformer icon on the desktop anyone and clues? Edited December 8, 2018 by Yautja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I do not consider failed acid tests a problem when the real world apps work fine. It might not be obvious, the emulator runs on Windows 7 too. Anyone tried wine? It might not be obvious... or, as a matter of fact, VERY obvious that (unless I missed something magical here) It does not even reproduces NTSC effective / true aspect ratio (11/12). In other words, a circle in true NTSC world shows as a flying saucer in Xformer, and a circle in Xformer shows as in inverted elipse in true NTSC... How's that for a REAL WORLD application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpental Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 Some people have been confused about how to launch an individual image file like an ATR/XEX etc. in XFormer 10. There are 2 ways: 1. Drag the image file onto the icon on your desktop. It does not yet work to drag it onto an already running window of XFormer10. 2. If XFormer10 is already running, put a virtual disk into the virtual disk drive by choosing the menu option "Disk/Cartridge"/"D1:"/"D1:" and then choose the image file. Cold Start using the menu VM/ColdStart (or just press CTRL-F10). See the XFormer10_README.rtf file for more information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 This emulator makes a fairly good Viewer for the Raster View compiled pictures. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baktra Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 It might not be obvious... or, as a matter of fact, VERY obvious that (unless I missed something magical here) It does not even reproduces NTSC effective / true aspect ratio (11/12). In other words, a circle in true NTSC world shows as a flying saucer in Xformer, and a circle in Xformer shows as in inverted elipse in true NTSC... How's that for a REAL WORLD application? Sorry, I am from the PAL world. Anyone else experiencing the aspect ratio problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Please compile this to work on Windows XP 32 bit. Thanks. Edit: Altirra works perfectly. Edited December 9, 2018 by Kyle22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baktra Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Please compile this to work on Windows XP 32 bit. Thanks. Edit: Altirra works perfectly. I am no expert, but I would bet that this XFormer depends on APIs not available for these outdated Windows XP. If it is the case... request denied. Edited December 9, 2018 by baktra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 When it comes to emulation (which is tricky enough sometimes) it is best to go with what works. Also, backporting to older os'es is something that is being done less and less - across the board, across all platforms, across all ecosystems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Some people have been confused about how to launch an individual image file like an ATR/XEX etc. in XFormer 10. There are 2 ways: 1. Drag the image file onto the icon on your desktop. It does not yet work to drag it onto an already running window of XFormer10. 2. If XFormer10 is already running, put a virtual disk into the virtual disk drive by choosing the menu option "Disk/Cartridge"/"D1:"/"D1:" and then choose the image file. Cold Start using the menu VM/ColdStart (or just press CTRL-F10). See the XFormer10_README.rtf file for more information. thanks. option 1 is fine - as I said above - and has been since install. option 2 is a no-no. if I select disk/cartridge > d1: > d1:... the second d1:... is greyed out think I'm missing something obvious here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Sorry, I am from the PAL world. Anyone else experiencing the aspect ratio problem? Atari home computers were designed and manufactured in California, USA. They were meant and designed for NTSC. Therefore, it is NTSC the primary reference point (I am not sure I could state anything more obvious or better known, indeed), and in much of the visitors stats that I can see displayed on Atari-related sites, it is usually the U.S.A. crowd that totals the most (in raw numbers, that is). ANYONE will experience this, because this is an objective issue (not a perceptual, not imagined, not an opinion). And the object itself is either your emulation platform or the actual machine. instead. Let's just take a look at the ACTUAL equipment on NTSC, so EVERYONE can see: Here's the source code in basic: Here's the output: Therefore: ALL of our known visual memory of our experience with NTSCs machines will END UP being WARPED horizontally if NTSC's 11h:12v aspect ratio is not accounted for. Everything. Every single of those hundred tiles is essentially showing the wrong proportions, if you do not get the above results. And to correct it, aspect-ratio must be recomputed per every frame you generate on the emulator (@ 60fps or 50fps). Unless a nice but truthful trick is already known, there goes your "0.01% CPU" usage, down the drain. Edited December 9, 2018 by Faicuai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Please compile this to work on Windows XP 32 bit. Thanks. Edit: Altirra works perfectly. So why would you need or even want xformer? I'm unable to think of a single advantage any other emulator has over it (other than native versions for platforms other than Windows). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpental Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 thanks. option 1 is fine - as I said above - and has been since install. option 2 is a no-no. if I select disk/cartridge > d1: > d1:... the second d1:... is greyed out think I'm missing something obvious here. Again, please see the README. It sounds like you have closed every VM, so you need to start a new one using the File/New VM/Atari 800 (or whichever type of machine you want to emulate), or File/New Session before you try and load a disk image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 we Again, please see the README. It sounds like you have closed every VM, so you need to start a new one using the File/New VM/Atari 800 (or whichever type of machine you want to emulate), or File/New Session before you try and load a disk image. it may sound like that...but I haven't. i have three VMs open, but disk/cartridge > d1: > d1:... that second d1: is definitely greyed out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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