+McCallister Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Today I learned that the score in Cosmic Ark can go up to 6 digits. I also learned that I have far too much free time on my hands. Cosmic Ark (Game 1, Difficulty B/B): 100,150 (Note: I did take video evidence as well and can PM it to Vocelli if he feels further evidence is needed to verify the score.) Wow! Impressive score, Jin. About how long do you think it took to achieve that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy B. Coyote Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Wow! Impressive score, Jin. About how long do you think it took to achieve that? It was a couple hours, though I kinda lost track of time since my brain had pretty much turned to Jello by the 50,000 mark. The last time I did a brain melting endurance run like that was when I rolled the score in Robotron 2084 on the Atari 7800. Not something I like to do often since it's a bit rough on the noggin and the wrists, but it feels good to have accomplished it. Edited October 19, 2018 by Jin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmiller Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Whew, They sure get fast the higher you go. Had a few hours last night to kill, so gave it another go. Having a lot of fun!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitanClassic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 It was a couple hours, though I kinda lost track of time since my brain had pretty much turned to Jello by the 50,000 mark. The last time I did a brain melting endurance run like that was when I rolled the score in Robotron 2084 on the Atari 7800. Not something I like to do often since it's a bit rough on the noggin and the wrists, but it feels good to have accomplished it. It is possible to get enough fuel by continually picking up the same alien. (I.e. pick up one alien. Leave planet. Shoot asteroids. Get shot by planet defenses. Repickuo 1 alien. Rinse and repeat) Did you perform this trick on the easier levels to build up your score? How many sets of aliens did you rescue (I think you get 1000 per planet)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy B. Coyote Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) It is possible to get enough fuel by continually picking up the same alien. (I.e. pick up one alien. Leave planet. Shoot asteroids. Get shot by planet defenses. Repickuo 1 alien. Rinse and repeat) Did you perform this trick on the easier levels to build up your score? How many sets of aliens did you rescue (I think you get 1000 per planet)? Yep, that's exactly how I did it. I figured it out after looking at the HSC all time records for Cosmic Ark (found here: http://hsc.statotronic.com/searchgame.php?game=49 ) and noticing that the top scores for the game were 90,950 from Sku_u and 83,700 from Keilbaca, with the next highest scores after those two being in the 20,000s. Knowing that the asteroids start moving too fast for human reflexes to react to after 20 or so planets, that got me wondering how the heck the top two players got such high scores. I figured there must have been some kind of special strategy to top tier scoring in this game, like how in Centipede you can get several hundred thousand points by staying on the first wave, always leaving one centipede segment alive, and just hunting the spiders while destroying any new centipede segments that spawn from the sides of the screen. I played around with Cosmic Ark for half an hour or so and eventually figured out that sure enough there was a special technique to getting a really high score in this game, which worked exactly as you described. I played as normal until the second planet of yellow Pac-Man looking creatures, which I think was the 12th or 13th planet, then set about asteroid hunting while refilling my energy meter as needed by capturing one alien then letting the mini ship get hit by the defense laser. A few hours, and several close calls nearly running out of energy, later and I had my high score. It sounds like a simple strategy but it was actually quite difficult staying focused and shooting asteroids without getting hit for hours on end, especially after the first hour or so when my wrist started feeling none too happy about the constant strain. But anyway, you are correct, that was my technique. Edited October 19, 2018 by Jin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitanClassic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 What a slog. I dont think I could sit bored shooting 10,000 asteroids. In future HSCs we might want to consider highest planet reached/Completed like we have done with Time Pilot and other games with poorly implemented point systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy B. Coyote Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) What a slog. I dont think I could sit bored shooting 10,000 asteroids. In future HSCs we might want to consider highest planet reached/Completed like we have done with Time Pilot and other games with poorly implemented point systems. It sure was a slog, I never want to do that again. My wrist especially doesn't want to have to do that again. The High Score Club is supposed to be a "just for fun" sort of thing though, so in the spirit of friendly and fair competition I won't mind if Vocelli wants to redact my score; since I did use a unconventional playing technique to achive it. I feel like I worked really hard to get that score, but I did do it in a way that most people probably wouldn't think to try. Edited October 19, 2018 by Jin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarQ Massacres Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 A couple new scores to finish me off for this gameGame 1 - 12,820Game 5 - 804 I wanted to get to at least 1000 points in game 5, but that is just a bit too hard for me, I'll stick to the normal asteroids myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vocelli Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 It sure was a slog, I never want to do that again. My wrist especially doesn't want to have to do that again. The High Score Club is supposed to be a "just for fun" sort of thing though, so in the spirit of friendly and fair competition I won't mind if Vocelli wants to redact my score; since I did use a unconventional playing technique to achive it. I feel like I worked really hard to get that score, but I did do it in a way that most people probably wouldn't think to try. Your score will count. I surely would never sit and destroy asteroids for hours... More power to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy B. Coyote Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Your score will count. I surely would never sit and destroy asteroids for hours... More power to you! Thanks Vocelli, that's a real relief! I went back and did the math to figure out roughly how many asteroids I shot down as well as how much time I spent doing it and determined that I was getting 240 points per asteroid wave, each containing 3 pink asteroids worth 30 points each and 15 regular ones worth 10 points each, so in total I ended up shooting down about 6,860 asteroids over the course of 2 hours and 43 minutes. It's a wonder my joystick is still working properly after all that. Edited October 19, 2018 by Jin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesyy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Slight improvement on my original scores. I really struggle with this game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcoastgamer Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Game (1) 24,260 Game (5) 3,574 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariWarlord Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I actually did destroy both of my joysticks playing this game. Unless I can fix them, I guess I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.BAZ Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Game 1B: 13,430 Game 5B: 1,294 Made some improvements, but I guess I don't understand Jin's technique yet. I keep leaving 1 critter and letting my pod get destroyed, but no life-refill. I tried: -- taking both critters and then getting destroyed, then leaving the 1 critter behind. -- taking the only critter and then getting destroyed, leaving 1 behind. -- taking both critters, getting destroyed, then coming back and taking no critter and getting destroyed. -- (same as the last one but keeping the ship alive when I come back and take no critter) none of these seem to be working, although I think I did get a refill one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agb Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 10,550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Congrats Jin, you figured out the secret! I have been playing the regular way, because I didnt feel like doing that kind of grind again. When the laser fires so fast that it is impossible to make it through without luck, its escentially the kill screen. I dont think the Atari can keep up with the left or right asteroids because Ive seen lasers go through even the blue straight asteroids and hit the ship. The only way to really score that high is to do the grind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troff Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 13,200 Bonus 924 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitanClassic Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Made some improvements, but I guess I don't understand Jin's technique yet. I keep leaving 1 critter and letting my pod get destroyed, but no life-refill. I tried: -- taking both critters and then getting destroyed, then leaving the 1 critter behind. -- taking the only critter and then getting destroyed, leaving 1 behind. -- taking both critters, getting destroyed, then coming back and taking no critter and getting destroyed. -- (same as the last one but keeping the ship alive when I come back and take no critter) none of these seem to be working, although I think I did get a refill one time. You wont advance to the next planet until you rescue both critters. Whenever you rescue a critter, you get a life bonus for the ARK. Collect one critter and enter the ark, you cannnot leave until the asteroid alert sounds. After the asteroid point scumming, you will return to the planet to rescue the remaining critter. instead of rescuing it, get your pod killed by planetary defenses. The critter you were carrying will be dropped to the surface (2 now on the planet). Rescue only one critter, and enter the ARK, waiting for the asteroid alert to leave. Gain some health for rescuing the critter that you previously saved once again. Rinse and repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 11,510 for game 1 and 1,044 for game 5. Just played again and improved upon my scores. Game 1 is now 13,370 and game 5 is 1,264. Edited October 20, 2018 by jeremiahjt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nads Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 A little more Cosmic Ark 1BB : 24,740 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leto27 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Cosmic Ark Game 1 B/B 29320 points. Using the wash, rinse repeat method (change my mind about not posting another score ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agb Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 15,460 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorfy Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Game 1: 10,990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbler15 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Game 5 B/B - 204 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthkur Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 11,250 Bonus: 1,054 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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