tschak909 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 After many long months of testing. PLATOTerm has been officially released for the Apple II, Atari 8-bit, Commodore 64, and Commodore 128 systems. Thanks to all who helped test! Release page is here: https://github.com/tschak909/platoterm64/releases/tag/PLATOTerm-1.0#irataonline #plato #platoterm #atari #c64 #c128 #apple2 -Thom PLATOTerm-1_0-Atari.atr 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Thank you! So awesome you're doing this. Looking forward to getting my A8 online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Now that 1.0 is released for the CC65 targets, I need to figure out where to focus my efforts to get memory consumption down, as the Atari version has a hard limit of 24K before the serial driver refuses to load. I was able to get the code down to 16K by stripping out ALL of the preferences, and ALL of the touch support, but this is untenable, and I now need to squeeze things down so that more can be added later... -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 as the Atari version has a hard limit of 24K before the serial driver refuses to load Hmm. The map file shows that highest address used by the program is $8E49. (Program file size is $63C5 [25541].) Adding $2000 for __RESERVED_MEMORY__ and $800 for stack, gives $B649. $5D7 (1495) bytes available for heap with $BC20 upper limit. How much memory do you need for things you removed in order to fit into the available memory? Depending on your C-stack usage, you could also try lowering __STACKSIZE__. Be careful there, a too small stack can result in hard to debug problems. regards, chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 The Atari version got rid of the multiply tables. This freed up about 2-3K There is still a table for scaling touch coordinates, that if pulled could gain another 1K. meanwhile. I have 384 bytes for receive buffer... 256 bytes are used for the PLATO to ASCII translation table 768 bytes used for the downloadable font. (and another 768 bytes for the built in font) 192 bytes for the fill stack (both X and Y) and about 64 bytes for miscellaneous bullshit. This next dev cycle will sure be interesting. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scitari Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Many thanks for all your hard work on this! Can't wait to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 I have released a Getting Started video for the Atari 8-bit PLATOTerm: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Very nice video. Only now I found out that I can hit "SELECT" to quit the program Probably should have read the instructions before... regards, chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 it was a late added feature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastic Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 So last Friday I dived into the world of Irata.online with my 130XE, 850 and WiFiModem232. This version 1.0 is the only one that works for me I finally figured out that DragonCart is not yet supported, hadn't been paying attention 1200 Baud is a must or messy output Just 3 things I wanted to ask : Does using an ST mouse work on a 130XE when using the ATR from a SIO2SD ? When pressing U(sers) in the Irata.online menu I get a screen drawn full of lines until it eventually do CTRL-B to return to the previous menu Are there any colors yet ? Feels like I'm logging on to my school's old SPERRY-5000 SCO-UNIX system with a terminal back in 1987-1990 , how much I missed the simplicity of monochrome terminals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 hi. Thank you, so much, for testing. DragonCart isn't supported, and won't be supported until IP65 gets TCP window resizing, which is needed for flow control. This is ironically a version of the same problem that affects SIO users, and requires use of roughly 1200 baud. As far as ST mouse support, Mr-Atari was able to find a fix that allows ST and Amiga mice to work (basically, because nobody had tried making an Atari program that used the mouse AND RS232 before, so some work-arounds had to be figured out in the mouse driver code.), that will be incorporated into the upcoming release of 1.2. Color support is tricky, because mode F only supports black and white, and I need all 320 pixels to produce readable output. very basic color support (using the 8 defined PLATO system colors) would require slicing the screen up with display list interrupts and overlaying the results with player/missile graphics. Given how Mode F works, this would very much look like colored cellophane being applied to the screen. I will try it at some point after 1.2, but it won't be easy. Full color will also never be possible on this system (due to the lack of addressable color pixels in Mode F) -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Full color will also never be possible on this system (due to the lack of addressable color pixels in Mode F) But will there ever be a full colour VBXE version? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Sure,<standard_answer>either I will do it, or someone else will. </standard_answer> -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastic Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I seem to have one bug , whenever the Apple logo is drawn onto the Main Menu screen, it keeps filling the screen Has anybody else encountered this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I seem to have one bug , whenever the Apple logo is drawn onto the Main Menu screen, it keeps filling the screen IMG_3986.JPG Has anybody else encountered this ? Errrr.... that seems to be the least of your problems I'd think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 The stray line seems to indicate that some data is being corrupted, either through buffer overflow or some other problem. I have actually removed the fill from subsequent builds of the terminal, at least until I can find a faster algorithm. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneedham Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Ok, this is probably something simple and I am just not getting it, but I can't seem to get Plato Term to run on my stock 130xe. It gives me a "not enough memory" error when I try to binary load it from the DOS menu. I am using an SIO2SD interface with the ATR downloaded from the platoterm website. I tried pressing option when the ATR booted, but doesn't seem to make a difference. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Darren IMG_3910.MOV Edited March 25, 2019 by dneedham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hmm, and you can hear the R: handler loading? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellis Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Ok, this is probably something simple and I am just not getting it, but I can't seem to get Plato Term to run on my stock 130xe. It gives me a "not enough memory" error when I try to binary load it from the DOS menu. I am using an SIO2SD interface with the ATR downloaded from the platoterm website. I tried pressing option when the ATR booted, but doesn't seem to make a difference. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Darren Did you boot with BASIC disabled (hold down the OPTION key during power on)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneedham Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hmm, and you can hear the R: handler loading? -Thom Yes, I just verified, I can hear the R: handler loading at the end of the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneedham Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Did you boot with BASIC disabled (hold down the OPTION key during power on)? I did, when that happens, it boots DOS, doesn't seem to boot the R: handler, and since Basic is disabled, it just freezes at the end of the startup. Not sure what I am doing wrong here. IMG_3920.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Do not use sio2sd turbo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneedham Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Do not use sio2sd turbo... I'll try that when I get home this evening. Thanks again. Darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 we'll get it. This is one reason that I made the cartridge version, because the disk version barely fits into memory. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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