Opry99er Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I'll pop mine open when I get home from Colorado! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Jim, have you been able to ascertain the issue with Vic's cart yet? Is it fixable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 It will be obvious once you see the pictures--it probably won't be fixable without replacing the innards with an UberGROM board programmed with the correct ROM and GROM files. There is definitely no way to reprogram or replace the original blobbed chips on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Don't we have a ROM (not GROM) dump of St. Nick? We could put that on a standard cart board and put it back in that case, couldn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) Yes - I have one - so does Jon Guidry. It is a single 8K file. AFAIK, it runs fine. The dump I have was made directly from a cartridge and was in the Lima Library more than 20 years ago. Edited November 18, 2018 by atrax27407 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 True--but I also want to make sure we preserve this GROM/ROM variant, as it does work on V2.2 consoles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 *^^^good thought. Is it salvageable from a dump standpoint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I'll know when I try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Torrax Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Here's my Funware ROM dumps from various sources over the years. The only dump with a GROM was ST. NICK. This was from a friend from Innisfail, Alberta (old Red Deer 99'ers U.G.). Funware_Modules.zip 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) True--but I also want to make sure we preserve this GROM/ROM variant, as it does work on V2.2 consoles. I thought all St. Nick carts would be with a GROM since on the box for St. Nick it says "Guaranteed to work on all current and future versions of the TI-99/4A". Edited November 20, 2018 by Toucan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 There is also a single 8K ROM variant in circulation, which is why I wanted to make sure both were preserved, Toucan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliketurtles Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I never noticed that, Toucan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) There is also a single 8K ROM variant in circulation, which is why I wanted to make sure both were preserved, Toucan. Never knew there would be a non-GROM version, due to the box and marketing. If anything, the ROM version would be the rare one. I'd be interested in finding out where that came from. Edited November 20, 2018 by Toucan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 It may have been prepared for the ROMOX cartridge stations, as a lot of the Funware titles were included as selections there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 It may have been prepared for the ROMOX cartridge stations, as a lot of the Funware titles were included as selections there. Ah, very good possibility. You are right about Funware having a lot of titles on that machine. Cave Creatures being one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Gotta open mine tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliketurtles Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Ditto for the Schnoz-Ola box. Probably all Funware carts after St.Nick would have that small board with the GROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliketurtles Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) I thought all St. Nick carts would be with a GROM since on the box for St. Nick it says "Guaranteed to work on all current and future versions of the TI-99/4A". Ditto for the Schnoz-Ola box. I think that all Funware cartridges after St. Nick was released would have that small board with the GROM. Edited November 21, 2018 by iliketurtles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Toucan, didn't you have a Schnoz-Ola prototype? If so, it may also have the GROM board, as Competition Computer used the 8K file from the ROMOX programming stations for their reproduction cartridges. That would also solidify the assumption that Funware had two code variants for their later cartridges--GROM cartridge and ROMOX ECPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) Toucan, didn't you have a Schnoz-Ola prototype? If so, it may also have the GROM board, as Competition Computer used the 8K file from the ROMOX programming stations for their reproduction cartridges. That would also solidify the assumption that Funware had two code variants for their later cartridges--GROM cartridge and ROMOX ECPC. That I do. I could check and see. Are we in need of a dump of it perhaps? Now, would there be anything taken out of these games to fit in 8K, or were they 8K to begin with and the GROM was just to work on v2.2 consoles? Edited November 21, 2018 by Toucan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Definitely--especially if you look inside and see that there is a super-tiny board in there! You can even do that without opening the case--just look through the cartridge slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I've got an 8K Schnozola cart as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Right, as I expect that pretty much all of them except for Toucan's prototype had their origin in a ROMOX machine, which could only handle 8K ROM images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Owen Brand has been nagging me to take pics of my boxed Funware collection. So I figured there's no better opportunity to show it off and brag than here in this thread about Funware carts Here you go Owen and anyone else that is interested 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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