Shawn Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 You're welcome. Now I'm 99% sure the schematics are correct, after highlighting each net in the PCB program and testing them with the multimeter. The remaining 1% is the pins that appear to be unconnected, but could indeed be hiding traces underneath the chip. But I'm pretty sure I got all the traces. Too bad you can't be sure on those last few pins as it would be awesome to get a new colecovision motherboard printed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfCv Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) I was talking specifically about the Expansion 1 there. The CV console board itself is probably complete. Hehe, well it might be fun to find out how much it would cost too. Printing an Arduino-sized board with the minimum order is about $60, for reference. You can do cheaper from China, though. Edit: Osh Park timed out while trying to parse the Gerbers JLCPCB, though, quoted $50 for 5 of them, including shipping. If they actually came through on that, that's a good price, even for something that might not work. Edited March 30, 2019 by ChildOfCv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmetro Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Thanks for posting, doing a refurb on Colecovision nice to have all the info in one place, great reference when I need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfCv Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Since I've had some time to learn FreeCAD, and since some people want "beautiful" 3D representations of the PCBs, I started creating the missing 3D models for components. Oooh, and aaaah for me, okay? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfCv Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 Schematics updated, finally. I added PAL Rev D schematics. Besides the difference in video generation, it seems that Coleco played around with the clock generator a bit too. Coleco.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfCv Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Newest version of the schematics. (Too bad I can't delete old attachments) It has corrections to the PAL D schematics and has some reorganization to hopefully improve readability. Coleco.zip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikrananka Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) On 7/25/2021 at 5:24 PM, ChildOfCv said: Newest version of the schematics. (Too bad I can't delete old attachments) It has corrections to the PAL D schematics and has some reorganization to hopefully improve readability. Fantastic - thanks for all your hard work producing these. Invaluable. Edited July 30, 2021 by Ikrananka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari-dna Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 @ChildOfCv So, I've had occasion to tear apart a Colecovision vintage power supply. The filter caps have terrible ESR and are leaky--in both DC and Electrolyte. I thought I would reach out as you seem to take pride in documenting this hardware from the engineering perspective. Would you care to have more photos and a component list to render schematics for the internal PCB of the power supply? Here's a sample photo with the electrolytics and regulator ICs removed. Let me know if you are interested (or anyone else who may be, for that matter) and I'll try to provide photos and parts identification to render a schematic. In the spirit of this thread, I hope some folks find this useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfCv Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 On 5/11/2023 at 2:54 PM, atari-dna said: @ChildOfCv So, I've had occasion to tear apart a Colecovision vintage power supply. The filter caps have terrible ESR and are leaky--in both DC and Electrolyte. I thought I would reach out as you seem to take pride in documenting this hardware from the engineering perspective. Would you care to have more photos and a component list to render schematics for the internal PCB of the power supply? Here's a sample photo with the electrolytics and regulator ICs removed. Let me know if you are interested (or anyone else who may be, for that matter) and I'll try to provide photos and parts identification to render a schematic. In the spirit of this thread, I hope some folks find this useful. Sure. It looks like all the traces are on the bottom of the PCB, so that's a lot easier to trace out. Looks to be a linear power supply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari-dna Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) cool Edited May 18, 2023 by atari-dna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari-dna Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 5/17/2023 at 6:23 AM, ChildOfCv said: Sure. It looks like all the traces are on the bottom of the PCB, so that's a lot easier to trace out. Looks to be a linear power supply. Okay, glad you're interested. I'll have the reverse side cleaned up and photographed by this weekend, and post some pictures :0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwilkson Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Weird sockets on that supply board. What ICs are used? LM723? Or some type of quad opamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari-dna Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 2:33 PM, cwilkson said: Weird sockets on that supply board. What ICs are used? LM723? Or some type of quad opamp? The sockets weren't there originally, I added them as part of my rebuild. The chips are LDO 723 regulators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwilkson Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 13 hours ago, atari-dna said: The sockets weren't there originally, I added them as part of my rebuild. The chips are LDO 723 regulators. Got it. That's very interesting. I know that the '723 was pretty popular. It's quite a versatile IC. It can support linear voltage, linear current regulation, and even temperature regulation. And I'm pretty sure I used it to control a switcher back in the 90's, based on a Radio Shack app note. But it seems kind of wasteful in a simple linear regulator vs. a 3-pin regulator. BTW, with a dropout voltage of 3000mV I would never call the '723 a Low Drop Out (LDO) regulator. No matter what TI marketing wants you to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari-dna Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Probably implemented as current limiters there are (3) T0-220 package voltage regulators present in the circuit as well (+12, +5 and -5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 12/3/2018 at 6:40 PM, ChildOfCv said: Hi all, First post. Hopefully it's a good one. Searching high and low for CV schematics and finding only the same set everywhere, and noting that it's lacking in a few places (and in PDF format instead of a schematic file), I set out to engineer a new schematic myself. I still can't guarantee its total accuracy, of course. But I hope it is. I used Kicad 5 for the project, which is also my first time using the package. So some things may not have been done optimally. Constructive criticism is welcome. .zip'd project archive: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lVH7_HhNAEBQ5yUY1j8FsJktdYjzmgUc Last I checked, Google Drive thought it couldn't display the preview, but the download button should still work. I am guessing you found the ones I drew a long time ago. I believe I did them in ORCAD and stopped maintaining them when I no longer had access to a working copy of that program. I had always intended to re-draw them but never got around to it. Thanks for the work brining them into a more modern schematics capture tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, DanBoris said: I am guessing you found the ones I drew a long time ago. I believe I did them in ORCAD and stopped maintaining them when I no longer had access to a working copy of that program. I had always intended to re-draw them but never got around to it. Thanks for the work brining them into a more modern schematics capture tool. They were still very useful, so thanks for your "early work" on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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