swapd0 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I've uploaded a demo version of classic kong I need feedback from NTSC users https://swapd0.blogspot.com 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Looks very interesting! Time to fire up my Skunkboard loader.... EDIT: I tried it out on one of my K-model NTSC Jag. Loads fine, inputs seem to work fine. The graphics look nice and colourful. There are some sound effect and voices. I found when Mario first appears by his lonesome and you run to the right on the lower level, he moves at a decent rate of speed. However, as barrels and the fireball appear, he slows down. By the time you have the fireball and three barrels on the screen, his movement speed drops substantially, maybe by half? The controls work fine. I let myself get killed a few times and the level reset just fine. I found completing this level as is fairly easy. Once I climb the ladder and reach the princess, the screen goes black, I hear the princess saying "Oh no!" and then eventually I find myself back at the title page after a lengthy wait. Edited December 7, 2018 by ls650 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swapd0 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 It's strange because it's supposed that you should play the first level, over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swapd0 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 About the slowdowns, I need to speed up the code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 https://youtu.be/xhPY6FkfGOg If there's anything I can do to help, let me know - Kong is ossum! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Strange - Cyrano's shows the ape grabbing the princess and then the level restarts. Not on mine. As soon as Mario reaches the top of the ladder the screen goes black, and I don't see the ape grabbing the princess, nor do I see the level restart. I wondered if something was wrong with my flash, so I reflashed the ROM just to be sure. Same story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 The slowdown will be the 3x 16 bit trans layers. Make the backdrop 4bpp and the skyline 1bpp (if it isn't already) and you'll get a significant speedup. If you want the blue->purple effect, use 3 x 4bpp bands and burn some CLUT tables. It's still less than using a 16bpp image. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Thats awesome swap! Keep going! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefMan Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Had the same issue with the screen going black after making it to the top but not consistently. It's looking and sounding very good overall though, nice progress! Thanks for sharing the demo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Wow, great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Yes! This looks sweet, man! I'll take a cart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Surely looks very promising. :-) Sprites look already great! I could help out with some background bmps swapdO. Just PM. Edited December 8, 2018 by agradeneu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 So this is a port of the SNES homebrew Piko Interactive released a few years ago? I got a copy of this before they pulled it, I'm assuming for copyright reasons. I think they redid the sprites and made it a viking themed game but I think that's gone from their store too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swapd0 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) I'm using 2x 4bits bitmap for the clouds (I draw 256 + 16 pixels to make the scroll), 1 bit bitmap for the skyline, 8bits bitmap for the tiles screen, 16 bits bitmap for the sprites, all sprites are 16x16 pixels. I forgot to include two black stripes on each edge to remove the weird effect on the borders. Maybe playing with the release bit I can get more CPU time. Also I want to change vbcc for gcc, it generates better code. Edited December 8, 2018 by swapd0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Good job! But I'd be careful with the title and graphics. Nintendo is pretty aggressive with its IP. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Good job! But I'd be careful with the title and graphics. Nintendo is pretty aggressive with its IP. I agree swapd0 you might want to take a page from kid kong's Mario on the St. Edited December 8, 2018 by walter_J64bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Good job!But I'd be careful with the title and graphics. Nintendo is pretty aggressive with its IP. A very good point. I'm surprised we all haven't already been sued, along with anyone we've talked to in the last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) In 1997, I had a Mario guy opening a mailbox "gif" (on my website) and Nintendo sent me a letter threatening me. The letter said I had 48 hours to remove it. It was hilarious. Edited December 8, 2018 by Machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swapd0 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 WTF!?!? Maybe we can change the kong for an octopus, the blonde girl for a ginger girl, and Mario for... another guy dressed with any color but red. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 WTF!?!? Maybe we can change the kong for an octopus, the blonde girl for a ginger girl, and Mario for... another guy dressed with any color but red. An octopus to a Jaguar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Just rename it to Guido's Gorilla Adventure and you're in the clear. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isgoed Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) I've uploaded a demo version of classic kong I need feedback from NTSC users Just tried this on a M model Jaguar. At 60Hz. after clearing the level, the screen goes black and stays black, but the game continues to the next level as I can hear the sounds. As mentioned by others, the game slows down to a snails pace when there are more objects on screen. At 50Hz. the game plays flawless at a constant pace, a bit too easy but fun nevertheless! The use of the left/right audio channels is very nice and adds to the "feel" of the game imo Edited December 9, 2018 by Isgoed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swapd0 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 At 50Hz. the game plays flawless at a constant pace, a bit too easy but fun nevertheless! The use of the left/right audio channels is very nice and adds to the "feel" of the game imo Yes, I made a mistake when compiled the demo version and the level loops it's not incremented, so you play at the same difficulty level over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isgoed Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Ok, after playing this some more I must add that there is slowdown when jumping over barrels when there are more flames and barrels in the game. This is in 50Hz. mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Looking very promising indeed. Great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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