tschak909 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I have been approached by some people who have expressed interest in a cartridge version of PLATOTerm. I would be okay with producing these, but I would like to work with someone to try and work out the logistics of producing a small run of these carts, as I do not have any experience doing this, and wouldn't want to fuck it up. Thoughts? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I’d be up for one or two (if it doesn’t take away from another user). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+David_P Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 You can get 16K EPROM Cart Boards from OSH Park at https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/YreZRvio 20 boards for about $120 - you'd need 27128 EPROMs, 74LS00s and 0.1uf capacitors (see http://www.grandideastudio.com/wp-content/uploads/pp_atari8bit_instructions.pdf);the boards fit in the Atari brown cart cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-atari Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Why not buy a MyIDE-II or equivalent?That does 16k-cartridges and much more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 Why not buy a MyIDE-II or equivalent? That does 16k-cartridges and much more.... Some ppl have asked to buy a cart. So I am working with Albert on that. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I'd buy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 @Sanny - to relate to the other threads... The final cart will be just a standard 16K cart. The problem I have is that I'm wanting to cram this onto a SpartaDOS X compatible banked cartridge image, so that I can load it into my Ultimate 1mb. In the mean time, I asked @Albert for a cart board and a 16K EPROM (I just bought a burner and an eprom lamp), so that I can test this on my actual hardware. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Why not buy a MyIDE-II or equivalent? That does 16k-cartridges and much more.... I love my MyIDE-II and love to use it for lots of cartridge images, but sometimes, for certain things, I'd rather have a solo-program cartridge like the old days. Not necessarily in this case though, and I certainly prefer loading up language cartridges from the MyIDE-II and use it as an HDD too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 The final cart will be just a standard 16K cart. I'm fine with that. I exactly want this :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Thanks to Albert, He sent an XEGS cart board and a couple of EPROMs. After a bit of tripping over bank intiialization code, and some help from @sanny, I was able to get cartridge PLATOTerm to stably work on real hardware. Demo video below: #irataonline #platoterm #plato #atari #cartridgehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z30YqJJHRA Now I'll write and typeset the manual, and do a box (I just need a template) -Thom 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-atari Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Select-X does not seem to work on the 1.1 version. Can I get a download for testing? p.m. will be fine too. If possible. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 I will update the release tomorrow, but for now, will upload an updated build here: PLATOTerm-1.1.1-lite-cart-joystick.rom This has select-X to exit, but also fixes a very subtle bug that prevented notes numbers from appearing in the notes page (because I had incorrectly excised the color parsing code from the protocol decoder to save memory.) -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-atari Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Thanks, I will try this today.Mouse problems: the driver uses pokey-timers. Normally not a issue, but with pokey in concurrent mode (serin and serout clocked by all 4 counters), not possible.... Also when using IRQ-based drivers, make sure not to block higher priority IRQ's. First code the lower-priority driver should do is CLI to enable IRQ again. You could try using nmi for counting instead of pokey-timers. Just some results from testing. Have a good new year, talk to you later. Sijmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-atari Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) Some graphical issues, but beside that, it looks OK to me. I ran it with 1200,1800,2100 baud all fine. 2400 is too fast. Can you test this build for me? It only sends Xoff out and does not do Xon. I have blocked Xon with RTS instead of sending it out. At my place, I still can not dead-stop the server, giving proof, to me that is, Xoff does not work.... I know this is and old issue and you say the server does stop eventually after delay and sending packages of data. But somehow not at my place. Grtz, Sijmen. PLATOTerm-1.1.1-lite-cart-joystick_Xoff-test.rom Edited December 29, 2018 by mr-atari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 So, I've just loaded this rom onto my Atari 800. Using the manual found here, https://github.com/tschak909/platoterm64/releases/tag/PLATOTerm-1.0, note of the keyboard commands do anything. I can't even change the color. I'm not 100% sure my 850 is fully functioning but I would assume that I should be able to get some response from PLATOTerm with or without a functioning 850. Is this a correct assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 As has been noted in the release documentation and in other places, the cartridge is a cut down version that has only the functionality needed to use the terminal, and is locked to 1200bps. The manual for the cart is being put together, and you can get a draft copy here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Sq9APPfTIUNZTQlacTbYWwNzjF_-sNmw The cartridge was designed to act as a bootable cartridge, in that: * If you don't have a disk drive, it will bootstrap the 850 (or equivalent) R: handler itself, you'll hear a long beep, as this happens. * If you do have a disk drive, the AUTORUN.SYS (or equivalent) on your DOS disk is intended to load the R: handler, this was done so devices like the R-Verter could be used in place of the 850. Once started, you should hear a slight click, as the terminal pops into concurrent mode, to talk on the RS232 port. If nothing loads, it will simply sit there, and not respond. Because of cart space constraints, I could not add an error message (I am not kidding, I only had a handful of bytes left.) You need to make sure that your WIFI modem is working properly, with other programs if need-be. -Thom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Why not buy a MyIDE-II or equivalent? That does 16k-cartridges and much more.... I love the MyIDE's but I want a single dedicated cartridge with its own label and hopefully boxed with Manual. I would most definitely pay for that. Do the box in classic Atari 400/800 black box styling with artwork and do the cartridges in classic brown label, really give it a solid 400/800 look to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Yup, that's the plan. Albert pinged me yesterday and said he'd get me a box file, and I sent him a draft of the manual. As for the cartridge code itself, it's pretty much done, so it's all about getting the manual and box printed. Albert made the comment that this will probably be the most ornate manual he's printed (it will weigh in at approximately 28 pages, and is color)... -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I love the MyIDE's but I want a single dedicated cartridge with its own label and hopefully boxed with Manual. I would most definitely pay for that. Do the box in classic Atari 400/800 black box styling with artwork and do the cartridges in classic brown label, really give it a solid 400/800 look to it. Yeah, this. If it happens, I will buy one as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 it will. I am working on it. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 Mr. Robot has done the box art, it looks glorious Thank you so much! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbstein Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Can hardly wait to get this, looks awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Yeah I really want one of these as well. It'll motivate me to get my setup dialed and working so I can jump online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 When do you estimate to ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 Don't know. I am making a few beta carts for the various upcoming computing shows, because I won't be able to attend, but having this shipped will depend on:* Getting the manual finished * Tweaking manual and box with Albert to make sure it prints okay -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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