flashjazzcat Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Does the typesetting look okay? I'd increase the left and right margins just a bit (I'm going by a comparison with the AMAC manual), and the point sizes seem HUGE (that may be entirely intentional for all I know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) The point sizes are somewhat intentional because the target size is 5inx7in. I will bring in the left/right margin by another 1/8in. Of course, I am doing all of this blind at the moment, but I will do this right. I want this to be as good as I can make it. I really need to buy something from AA with box/manual... -Thom Edited January 8, 2019 by tschak909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Yes: I wondered if this was in fact an A5 manual after I posted. Point size makes sense now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 So... I found a good diagram for reference in Bond Analysis... One thing I am noticing, is that these manuals are at once consistent, and NOT. At least the fonts are consistent..but even TOC numbering can differ. I'm digging through more manuals to grab bits and pieces that can be re-drawn. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 oop, my new in box Atari BASIC cartridge with manual and box arrived. Let's see how this looks. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Ok. So small box BASIC. This is a good size...(and yes, that is TWO GIANT CUPS OF COFFEE slammed back to back, in the background.)Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Edited January 8, 2019 by tschak909 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (and yes, that is TWO GIANT CUPS OF COFFEE slammed back to back, in the background.) It's definitely a two-coffee project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) The rest of the box. HOPEFULLY this is the size @Albert is aiming for. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Edited January 8, 2019 by tschak909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troff Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 This is so cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) WOW that is such a great job Mr Robot! Really! Just one thing, is there a chance to change the CXL number? In 2012, with respect to Carol Shaw, I searched all numbers of the original carts and the next free number was 4028. So, 9 years ago, we donated her the number. Of course, she deserved a double zero number, but they were all gone. :-( https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Atari%20Calculator Further, I have seen some The!Cart images with the same number. Can we find a solution, especially for carts to come? Have here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/42qfvr4lvhq1c5t/Thom.zip?dl=0 collected some fonts of old carts. Further, we should take new carts into the hall of fame, where Platoterm belongs to! Maybe we can add a column here: http://www.atariage.com/software_list.html?SystemID=800 with the serial numbers of the carts? -> Albert? Thank you all so much, you do a real men's job! Edited January 14, 2019 by luckybuck 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I've given all the art and the required fonts to Thom, he can change the number to anything he likes now. BTW the 4 in that last label is incorrect, the correct one is a custom glyph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Uh ha, thank you sooo much Mr Robot. DIdn't knew that! Thank you. Btw, your graphics are soooo outstanding cool and impressive, incredible good work! Please go ahead. :-))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Wouldn't a list of all the carts with their CXL numbers be a perfect fit to appear on the Atari Wiki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Mr Robot, you are right, I am so stupid. The easiest solutions, I don't get. Due to education... We are drilled to make it always as complex as possible... Sure, the would be the best idea, can copy the list from here and make a new one. Yes, should be done. Hope again, to get help from smart guys here. Atari Geezer is very big in carts, maybe, he will help? Will do so, very good idea, thank you. :-) In the background the Atari SAEL team is preparing a big publication, which has to come first. But I put your idea on my list (which is getting longer and longer...). Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I've just signed up to the wiki, if you give me edit rights I'll help out with that. I've sent you a PM, this is getting too off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Anyone else see a resemblance between Plato and Joe Decuir? Oh, he's much more handsome then that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 5:30 PM, Albert said: One comment on the label -- I don't think the bottom portion of the label is supposed to be a different color. I believe this happens because part of the label fades, possibly from sitting in the computer where only part of it is exposed to sunlight? The brown should be a uniform color. ..Al Coming back to this just a while after the fact... I just came across this label There is definitely a darker bar along the bottom, in this label it goes back to lighter again after the logo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) Maybe I can clear this up... The Banding is a two fold issue. The Yellow and what is referred to as Darker Yellow or Brown or even Orange lettering and the resulting band is on ALL cartridge at that time, if you can not perceive it, try looking at it with different spectrums of light and angles and distance for your viewing point. Even on the cartridges that have faded and are hard to see it is present. This is a product of the process of making the Labels and coloring the letters. The color is applied as a rectangle, or band to color the letters and as a square for descending text like a TM (trademark etc) It was later used as a way to authenticate the product. What was allowed to change was the stamping of numbers into the label. This method allowed uniform color across the text and avoided registration issues... I hope this clears some of the concerns up. I tend to ramble and nobody wants me to go on about this kind of stuff to be sure Edited July 11, 2019 by _The Doctor__ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 One thing I've noticed doing all these cart labels is that some of the homebrew and flashcarts used numbers that clash with real carts. Platoterm is one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 They aren't supposed to use numbers already in use. They need to change that ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 Yup, don't care what number is in use, we can change it to whatever. I still need to deal with the typeset manual, and see what needs to be done to get it to something that Albert can print. I need to also figure out what to do for all the different touch drivers. I can't fit them all into 16K, it's just not possible. What I'd like to do is put each version of platoterm with a touch driver statically built, on the cartridge, and have a simple menu to select the appropriate one, as doing the initial calculations to handle bank switching etc for the touch driver will be _very_ problematic, as many of the touch drivers require pokey IRQ interaction... Does anyone else have a potential solution? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I don't like the idea of just inventing new serial numbers. How do you feel about CXPLATO as the code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Well, you have an outstanding work with the box. You really should deverse the next free CX-number to my mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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