flashjazzcat Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 OK... you seem pissed off. Forget I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ol.sc Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Yes, I'm indeed pissed off. Sorry if that wasn't obvious enough. And thanks in case you actually wanted to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Hi! After some reading and thoughts I have changed my mind. I remove my name from the list. So this is the list the next person could use: 1. davidcalgary29 - 1 cart2. xrbrevin - 1 cart3. skriegel - 2 carts4. 5. brenski - 1 cart6. AtariSociety - 1 cart7. Mathy - 2 carts8. Haightc - 1 cart9. Markk - 1 cart10. Sleepy - 2 carts11. Nezgar - 1 cart12. Gunstar - 1 cart13. Chaosfaktor - 1 cart14. Wadeford - 1 cart15. sanny - 1 cart16. DNA128k - 1 cart17. Senor Rossie - 3 carts18. KlasO - 2 carts19. NML32 - 1 cart20. CharlieChaplin - 1 cart.21. slx - 1 cart22. David_P - 1 cart23. Rainier - 1 cart24. AtariPortal - 2 carts25. patjomki - 1 cart26. Allan - 1 cart27. Toddtmw 1 cart28. TheNameOfTheGame 1 cart29. adam242 1 cart30. Dan Winslow - 2 carts31. Jinroh - 1 Cart32. Philsan - 1 Cart33. Lastic - 1 Cart34. invisible kid - 1 cart35. gozar- 1 Cart36. pixelmischief - 1 cart37. BigBen - 1 cart38. Soulbuster 1 Cart39. Ransom - 1 cart40. TemplarXB - 1 cart41. tuf - 1 cart42. mariusz - 1 cart43. leech - 1 cart44. Firedawg - 1 cart45. mani - 2 carts 46. code_blazer - 2 carts 46. Defender II - 2 carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Yes, I'm indeed pissed off. Sorry if that wasn't obvious enough. And thanks in case you actually wanted to help. I don't know whether to be pleased to be thanked or insulted by the incredibly patronising tone. Way to deflect responses in the thread, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ol.sc Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Just deflecting responses like "Just give the hardware to someone who knows the A8 and isn't intent on making the hardware work in some absurd proprietary manner." What would you propose to do with insults like this instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 It's unfortunate that you took that remark as an insult, since there's nothing insulting about it. It's a suggestion based on my observation of other projects which ended up working in a proprietary manner, did not observe standard protocols, or simply failed to work with other popular upgrades. Does this mean no-one knows what they're doing here or that the thing will end up working in an absurdly proprietary manner? Of course not, but it can happen. I've been around here for a decade and I have seen them all. Consider it another way of saying that the addition of a firmware developer with vision and copious knowledge of the hardware scene should result in a fine device. In sorry, anyway, for intervening when things are apparently going so well without my help or advice. I am no expert on the subject of network protocols and am clearly incapable of contributing anything useful to this weighty discussion. My apologies! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Oliver; meet Jon. Jon is an assembly level developer of firmware for Atari devices as well as an expert on all things "Atari hardware and addons". He writes graphical user interfaces and word processors when he isn't making youtube videos on how to repair and install upgrades to Atari hardware. Jon; meet Oliver. Oliver is a software developer who is developing an operating system called Contiki for 6502, targeting C64/128, Apple//e and Atari computers. He is currently developing a new ethernet hardware addon for the Atari. Maybe now would be a good time to go out, catch a breath, come back in, and start your discussion again. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ol.sc Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 @flashjazzcat: Thanks for your detailed explanation - honestly! @Mr Robot: Thanks for trying to help, but there's no need for introduction - at least from my POV: flashjazzcat (Jon ?) has been there helping with answers in about every question thread I opened so far in this forum. I admire his work (been reading through the many pages of the thread on his GUI development) and appreciate his advice. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Yep Jon's advice can definitely be trusted. And his 6502 software skills are par none. He was an incredible asset to my 1088XEL project, and I dare say without it, the hardware would have been severely lacking. We worked cohesively on the synergy between Jon's U1MB BIOS and my hardware design, and ended up all the better because of it. The XEL-CF was the toughest part, and required no less then 3 different hardware prototypes to bring it fully into fruition. Without Jon's help it would have been a very sad IDE interface with limited versatility. Since the U1MB and Jon's BIOS for it have made it's way into so many systems, it's imperative that strides be made to make any new piece of hardware compatible with it. This includes your proposed ethernet project. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariSociety Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 So I know whether to keep my name on the list or remove, can someone confirm what this device is... I had thought it was an Atari cartridge that would allow my 8 Bit Ataris to connect to my network/router via standard ethernet connection which in turn allows the Atari to access data on my network and internet too. Is that still the case? TJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peruchi Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 If there`s any chance that this device would be produced as a cartridge, I`m very interested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchorvat Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Interested in one... using last list mentioned, adding myself to line 4. 1. davidcalgary29 - 1 cart 2. xrbrevin - 1 cart 3. skriegel - 2 carts 4. mchorvat - 1 cart 5. brenski - 1 cart 6. AtariSociety - 1 cart 7. Mathy - 2 carts 8. Haightc - 1 cart 9. Markk - 1 cart 10. Sleepy - 2 carts 11. Nezgar - 1 cart 12. Gunstar - 1 cart 13. Chaosfaktor - 1 cart 14. Wadeford - 1 cart 15. sanny - 1 cart 16. DNA128k - 1 cart 17. Senor Rossie - 3 carts 18. KlasO - 2 carts 19. NML32 - 1 cart 20. CharlieChaplin - 1 cart. 21. slx - 1 cart 22. David_P - 1 cart 23. Rainier - 1 cart 24. AtariPortal - 2 carts 25. patjomki - 1 cart 26. Allan - 1 cart 27. Toddtmw 1 cart 28. TheNameOfTheGame 1 cart 29. adam242 1 cart 30. Dan Winslow - 2 carts 31. Jinroh - 1 Cart 32. Philsan - 1 Cart 33. Lastic - 1 Cart 34. invisible kid - 1 cart 35. gozar- 1 Cart 36. pixelmischief - 1 cart 37. BigBen - 1 cart 38. Soulbuster 1 Cart 39. Ransom - 1 cart 40. TemplarXB - 1 cart 41. tuf - 1 cart 42. mariusz - 1 cart 43. leech - 1 cart 44. Firedawg - 1 cart 45. mani - 2 carts 46. code_blazer - 2 carts 46. Defender II - 2 carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible kid Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) AtariSociety, Peruchi, As far I know this is a cartridge. Also as far as I know this is a basic ethernet device with programs such as telnet and a text-based http browser. Edited March 1, 2019 by invisible kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Add me in for 2 please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 you have to put your name and in a slot with the number you want... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 you have to put your name and in a slot with the number you want... Gotcha, thanks! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1. davidcalgary29 - 1 cart2. xrbrevin - 1 cart3. skriegel - 2 carts4. mchorvat - 1 cart5. brenski - 1 cart6. AtariSociety - 1 cart7. Mathy - 2 carts8. Haightc - 1 cart9. Markk - 1 cart10. Sleepy - 2 carts11. Nezgar - 1 cart12. Gunstar - 1 cart13. Chaosfaktor - 1 cart14. Wadeford - 1 cart15. sanny - 1 cart16. DNA128k - 1 cart17. Senor Rossie - 3 carts18. KlasO - 2 carts19. NML32 - 1 cart20. CharlieChaplin - 1 cart.21. slx - 1 cart22. David_P - 1 cart23. Rainier - 1 cart24. AtariPortal - 2 carts25. patjomki - 1 cart26. Allan - 1 cart27. Toddtmw 1 cart28. TheNameOfTheGame 1 cart29. adam242 1 cart30. Dan Winslow - 2 carts31. Jinroh - 1 Cart32. Philsan - 1 Cart33. Lastic - 1 Cart34. invisible kid - 1 cart35. gozar- 1 Cart36. pixelmischief - 1 cart37. BigBen - 1 cart38. Soulbuster 1 Cart39. Ransom - 1 cart40. TemplarXB - 1 cart41. tuf - 1 cart42. mariusz - 1 cart43. leech - 1 cart44. Firedawg - 1 cart45. mani - 2 carts46. code_blazer - 2 carts46. Defender II - 2 carts 47. Curt Vendel - 2 carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Hi Dudie i want one too greetings Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Hello Walter Hi Dudiei want one toogreetings Walter You need to copy the list and add your name to the bottom of it. Sincerely Mathy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massiverobot Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1. davidcalgary29 - 1 cart2. xrbrevin - 1 cart3. skriegel - 2 carts4. mchorvat - 1 cart5. brenski - 1 cart6. AtariSociety - 1 cart7. Mathy - 2 carts8. Haightc - 1 cart9. Markk - 1 cart10. Sleepy - 2 carts11. Nezgar - 1 cart12. Gunstar - 1 cart13. Chaosfaktor - 1 cart14. Wadeford - 1 cart15. sanny - 1 cart16. DNA128k - 1 cart17. Senor Rossie - 3 carts18. KlasO - 2 carts19. NML32 - 1 cart20. CharlieChaplin - 1 cart.21. slx - 1 cart22. David_P - 1 cart23. Rainier - 1 cart24. AtariPortal - 2 carts25. patjomki - 1 cart26. Allan - 1 cart27. Toddtmw 1 cart28. TheNameOfTheGame 1 cart29. adam242 1 cart30. Dan Winslow - 2 carts31. Jinroh - 1 Cart32. Philsan - 1 Cart33. Lastic - 1 Cart34. invisible kid - 1 cart35. gozar- 1 Cart36. pixelmischief - 1 cart37. BigBen - 1 cart38. Soulbuster 1 Cart39. Ransom - 1 cart40. TemplarXB - 1 cart41. tuf - 1 cart42. mariusz - 1 cart43. leech - 1 cart44. Firedawg - 1 cart45. mani - 2 carts46. code_blazer - 2 carts46. Defender II - 2 carts 47. Curt Vendel - 2 carts 48. massiverobot - 1 pbi device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) adding my name does not work on my tablet....stupid idea. If i cannot order a cart in the simple way......... then i am out. Edited April 6, 2019 by gambler172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Hello massiverobot ... 48. massiverobot - 1 pbi device This is the cart thread, the PBI version is build by somebody else in a different thread. Sincerely Mathy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) Hello Walter adding my name does not work on my tablet....stupid idea. It is. When I needed something for when I'm not at home, that's bigger than my phone and smaller than my iMac, I decided to go for a small laptop. Sincerely Mathy Edited April 6, 2019 by Mathy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandenivoldsk Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1. davidcalgary29 - 1 cart2. xrbrevin - 1 cart3. skriegel - 2 carts4. mchorvat - 1 cart5. brenski - 1 cart6. AtariSociety - 1 cart7. Mathy - 2 carts8. Haightc - 1 cart9. Markk - 1 cart10. Sleepy - 2 carts11. Nezgar - 1 cart12. Gunstar - 1 cart13. Chaosfaktor - 1 cart14. Wadeford - 1 cart15. sanny - 1 cart16. DNA128k - 1 cart17. Senor Rossie - 3 carts18. KlasO - 2 carts19. NML32 - 1 cart20. CharlieChaplin - 1 cart.21. slx - 1 cart22. David_P - 1 cart23. Rainier - 1 cart24. AtariPortal - 2 carts25. patjomki - 1 cart26. Allan - 1 cart27. Toddtmw 1 cart28. TheNameOfTheGame 1 cart29. adam242 1 cart30. Dan Winslow - 2 carts31. Jinroh - 1 Cart32. Philsan - 1 Cart33. Lastic - 1 Cart34. invisible kid - 1 cart35. gozar- 1 Cart36. pixelmischief - 1 cart37. BigBen - 1 cart38. Soulbuster 1 Cart39. Ransom - 1 cart40. TemplarXB - 1 cart41. tuf - 1 cart42. mariusz - 1 cart43. leech - 1 cart44. Firedawg - 1 cart45. mani - 2 carts46. code_blazer - 2 carts46. Defender II - 2 carts 47. Curt Vendel - 2 carts 48. massiverobot - 1 pbi device 49. fandenivoldsk - 1 cart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Months has passed and some questions are still unaswerered. Following Dragon Cart, the first ethernet cartridge for A8, it seems that two new ethernet devices will be produced: - unnamed cartridge (cartridge solution, in this thread there's an interest check), by Duddie, a known AA member, producer of various products - Dragon Cart II (PBI and ECI bus solutions, despite the name), by ol.sc, a known AA member too, A8 Contiki and IP65 C/ASM libraries (used by 8bit-Slicks) developer These are cartridge and bus solutions, so it's easy to understand that difference (for example with a cartridge solution you cannot load software from a multicart but you have to use a SIO device). IMHO the big question is software compatibility. I own the original Dragon Cart and I used it with: - Contiki (browser...), by ol.sc - 8bit-Slicks, the awesome cross-platform (Apple II, A8, C64) online car racer, by 8bit-Dude, that uses ol.sc IP65 libraries Evetually we'll have another cool cross-platform online game by 8bit-Dude, Grubs. I hope that both devices, despite hardware differences, would be compatible, otherwise the already limited userbase would be splitted up and coders would not be encouraged. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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