Swansea_Mariner Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 So does this sterling work call bs on Id's claims back in the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefMan Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I’d guess there was only so much time and money dedicated to the project and they simply ran out of one or the other or both.Not sure a CD port would of been any better based off of the constant streaming and it’s impact to frame rate it had on the 3DO version.What id was able to do on the Jag is still quite impressive. I’m really looking forward the enhancements in the works though!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just now, BeefMan said: I’d guess there was only so much time and money dedicated to the project and they simply ran out of one or the other or both. Not sure a CD port would of been any better based off of the constant streaming and it’s impact to frame rate it had on the 3DO version. What id was able to do on the Jag is still quite impressive. I’m really looking forward the enhancements in the works though! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Exactly. Atari knew it needed Jaguar Doom whilst there was still enough of a viable commercial market for the Jaguar to stand any chance of hanging in there.. I.D knew it had to be out whilst there was still a commercial Jaguar market. Dave Taylor says sales wise it bombed. We never saw anything else from I.D after it, so it stands to reason sales were well below expectations, even revised ones. How would we of felt if Carmack had said it'll be ready when it's ready, i'm coding from the ground up and rest assured it will make full use of the hardware, but it will be 6 months+ later than we hoped and then 3 months later says something like.. As much as i've enjoyed coding on the Jaguar, it's retail presence has simply become so miniscule, it makes no buisness sense to continue Jaguar Doom is now officially on hold until the market situation improves. Thanks to I.D back then, my friends and i got to play a bloody great version of Doom without needing a PC. Thanks to the sterling efforts put in by those working on the code today, Jaguar owners will get to play an even better version yet. That's something i never thought i would see. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalani Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Lost Dragon said: Not at all I'm saying in the pea soup that is my memory, there seemed to be a lot of heated debate back in the day as to why the SFX 2 chip enabled Doom on the 16 bit SNES had things like in-game music, night vision goggles and Spider Demons and the Jaguar version did not.. And people started banging on the proverbial door of I.D demanding explanations and to know what else was going to be cut and why. And to quell the pitchfork and burning torches brigade, high cartridge memory prices was put forward as the explanation. This was around the time they were interviewed in ST Format (i think) saying if Jaguar Doom sold well enough, they would bring Doom II to the Jaguar. But so much rubbish was written by the UK press alone at times regarding I.D and the Jaguar (Quake 30% complete :-))) I'm merely saying that's what i remember being stated at the time. But like how many years since Jaguar Doom was a W.I.P? Mccarmack did work on a quake on Jaguar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Grabbing popcorn... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Stephen said: Sadly, that's still not enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just a heads up. If the threads derails and goes off on a tangent about meta physics or drug induced flights of fantasized bullshit..... We'll just stop posting updates in it. Don't say you haven't been warned. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, CyranoJ said: Just a heads up. If the threads derails and goes off on a tangent about meta physics or drug induced flights of fantasized bullshit..... We'll just stop posting updates in it. Don't say you haven't been warned. Here is Wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Certain aspects of the Jaguar community need a reality check. I.D owed us nothing. No explanations of how Doom was being converted..their future Jaguar plans, why said plans were on hold and how Doom would of been improved if coded from the ground up..yet they took the time to share the information Cyrano Jones and others owe us nothing-yet has been kind enough to do regular updates on this and other projects on the go. Yes I.D could of done Jaguar Doom differently. .they admit that. Jim Bagley wanted to do Saturn Doom differently I.D wouldn't allow it and in hindsight admit that was a mistake. 3DO Doom could of been done differently and we know why it was so poor. 32X Doom could of be done differently. And so on and so on. Threads exist for all the above and for fantasy games on Jaguar...conspiracy theories on Jaguar. Shouldn't we be thanking people for the work they constantly put in to this day to ensure the community has a steady stream of quality titles? And passing on our gratitude to those commercial coders who gave us flagship titles in amongst the crud?. Some basic gratitude would go a bloody long way at times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just for the reord, it's 'id', not ID, or I.D. But whatever you wish. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Looking forward to seeing how this one ends up Cyrano Jones, but i will be following your progress on your YT updates. This topic is going on ignore on here as will a few other Jaguar topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Before anyone starts saying look what CJ did... this has taken several weeks, and several people.... but tonight we can show you this 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefMan Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 An incredible amount of effort went into getting this guy back into the game, congrats to all involved! The Jaguar community has some truly talented individuals.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_rg Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I was told that that is not possible... 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, CyranoJ said: Before anyone starts saying look what CJ did... this has taken several weeks, and several people.... but tonight we can show you this Impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Frickin fantastic! Just curious, was the asset in there but essentially not surfaceable, or did you all add it as a new asset to the engine? Great work for those involved...........I can see some crazy Jag PWADS coming in the future 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporadic Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 39 minutes ago, Goochman said: Frickin fantastic! Just curious, was the asset in there but essentially not surfaceable, or did you all add it as a new asset to the engine? Great work for those involved...........I can see some crazy Jag PWADS coming in the future No the assets weren't in there Anything unused was stripped out probably to save space. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Sporadic said: No the assets weren't in there Anything unused was stripped out probably to save space. What's the size of the current ROM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporadic Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lynxpro said: What's the size of the current ROM? Still just under 4 meg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorgb Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 AMAZING work! Will there be a beta ROM available for people who'd like to test? Apologies if this was already answered and I missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHATEIT Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Awesome updates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Saturn Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Aaaaand Spectres.... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHATEIT Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Hey Saturn how many levels are you hoping to end up with at the end of all of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Saturn Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 No idea, not sure how many can be crammed in but hoping it's a TON ? There's a lot of talent working on this so I'm confident it'll be huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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