Jump to content
IGNORED

News for the taco guys


PowerDubs

Recommended Posts

From the taco thread I can't respond to-

"Good ol' PDubs...still pimping hard with the shrewd investment advice. "


Abso-fuckin-lutely - just because I disagree with most of Fred's management doesn't mean I don't see potential value in where they are trying to go-

Blockchain definitely has a place. We just aren't quite there yet. But that is about to change. Maybe Atari, maybe somebody else - but the world and economy will evolve.

Atari is right now (finally) rolling out the the Atari Token will be able to purchase, sell, win or CREATE items in games- and then sell those items...then take the money back out for whatever you want- pay rent, buy food. whatever. Virtual worlds, virtual work, real world Fiat currency.

It started here- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE_HgzIL3aA watch, listen.

They have a lot going on.

It all ties together.

Atari are going all in- also just creating their own exchange- Atari Exchange

Interesting to watch where this is going.

TLDR- Animoca partnered with Atari for a virtual world with Atari properties and games allowing items and property to be both created, and bought and sold via the Atari Token.

Opening the door to inter-game trading and transfers. The only thing that comes close to today what was seen in "The Oasis" from "Ready Player One", where your single Avatar can play many game types...for real world benefit.

That appears to be exactly where first steps are being taken towards.

"One of the key features of our gaming platform is the possibility to create an ASSET from scratch (using VoxEdit), upload it to the marketplace and then monetize it into the blockchain."

Of course not immersive virtual reality- but still, unlike anything we have seen so far.

Tack on Atari acquiring Wonder-

WonderOS technology was designed to unify mobile, console, and PC gaming experiences, offering an ecosystem that gives access to multi-platform games, entertainment apps, and streaming services — locally or through the cloud.

Atari anticipates incorporating WonderOS into the development roadmap of the Atari Video Computer System (Atari VCS™) and making it available across mobile devices, which will further expand the capabilities and reach of the home gaming and entertainment system.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A free screw? Why not..

 

"Potential value" are the key words. Might happen or might not happen is the real-world translation.

 

I'm not interested in blockchain anything. Don't even know what it is besides some attachment to some obscure cryptocurrency thing on the internet.

 

I don't think I need an "atari token". Do I? Imean like what value and practical use is it to me? Can I like pay virtual rent with it? Or buy that virtual food? Seems like a virtual time waster to me.

 

And you're right they do have a lot going on, virtually.

 

And I'm not sure I want any kind of wonderingOS. I mean like they tried integrating TV and computer and phone and everything else in the 1990's and it didn't work. And it still doesn't work today. Some things have to be separate in order to operate correctly.

 

So I'm still unimpressed. And still don't have any real-world use of anything they're making. Bleccchhhtch!

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

i dunno- it seems so 'flavor of the month'-y to me and that the current iteration of Atari is trying to fling anything at the wall in vain hopes it'll stick.

 

focusing on the VCS, they took something that was a pretty cool idea and could've potentially made modest (safe) sales, I think, and then pimped it hopelessly, leaving its dried-out husk on the street.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not telling anyone to buy a token. But it is free to sign up for an account and watch to see what happens.

Atari Token

I was as skeptical as anyone else that this would ever happen- that is the entire reason I started this thread.

But the deal with Animoca is real, their Sandbox game world is real...so yea- we are about to see allowing items and property to be both created, and bought and sold via the Atari Token. Then go take that profit and buy a race car in Animoca's other game world- F1 Delta Time, or go back to the real world and buy a pizza, beer, movie, rent, whatever.

I find that not only fascinating, but full of potential.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Little more info I gathered from a French forum for anyone interested. If you create an account above and log in, you can see the price values listed on the righthand side.

According to the post I found-

The Atari Token (ATRI) is the Token (cryptocurrency exchangeable for other currency / crypto) and the Atari Coin (Atar) is the currency that will be used for purchases / exchanges in the world of Atari such as for example the casino or the games ...

The Atari Token will have a variable (speculative) value like any other cryptocurrency, with this Atari Token you will be able to exchange it for Atari Coin, which will have a fixed value to buy for example skins or objects in your games.

The goal is to keep a consistent value for everything that is "incidental" in games and other platforms like playing at Casino Atari for example.

So, currently 1 Atari Token costs 0.08 $ and allows you to have in exchange 0.8 Atari coin, So 1 Atari Coin is worth 0.10 $ and this value will not change for Atari coin.

So if the Atari Token takes value (supply and demand), and it is worth giving $ 2.2 at a time, then with 1 Atari Token you can exchange it for 22 Atari Coin.

Also note on that site, on the left hand side there is an option to 'invest' your tokens. Although no in depth details are given, I would assume it ties up their usage for the time period in exchange for a return in value. So I suppose like buying a short term bond.

The options given there are 3 month for 3%, 6 month for 6.5%



Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/8/2020 at 8:55 PM, AtariLeaf said:

Wait I'm confused, if the OG fans who care want nothing to do with Atari in it's current state and by your admission the majority of the population neither knows or cares about Atari, who is the tacobox for again? 

Could be misunderstanding, but I don't think he's saying that "the majority of the population neither knows or cares about Atari" based on the quote you provided  Seems like he's saying the majority of the population neither known or cares about "what Fred has done," and only the brand name is important.   Makes sense, I suppose.  I can personally think of a LOT of brands that I know, love, and get excited whenever they release a new product based on brand name, but have not clue who leads the company and what kind of shenanigans he/she has been up to.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Correct.

 

Your average person isn't following any of this.  And sure, they aren't running out to buy the new Pong game just released on steam today....

 

Most don't even know Atari is still a company. 

 

But the name is known.. so if a new console is released, given the amount of people familiar with the name worldwide- it has a better chance of catching someone's attention than a startup.

 

and yes, same goes for the hotel- if that ever gets built.  Like it or not- people will go there for the name and novelty.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/21/2020 at 3:15 PM, AtariLeaf said:

Sure sure. I just randomly go to Best Westerns all the time because I'm a big John Wayne fan

 

I just woke up not long ago and, well,  I had to run that one through my brain a second time...And now I think it's The Funniest thing on the Internet for Today, and then some...:rolling:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, GoldLeader said:

 

I just woke up not long ago and, well,  I had to run that one through my brain a second time...And now I think it's The Funniest thing on the Internet for Today, and then some...:rolling:

Always glad to help Goldleader. ?Especially you. You've always been one of the nicest members here.?

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm pretty ignorant on these things. When people gamble in this virtual currency, can it be traded back to hard currency that is gold backed or are you completely reliant on some sucker offering you money to buy it from you. 

 

PayPal and even bitcoin has a place in the world, I just don't get how a virtual currency backed by a company that has only made a small bucket of cash on licence deals, suing companies and dodgy project backing schemes can stay afloat long. Why would I use it unless I'm getting more for my money in atari coin than I am in pound sterling? 

 

Hasn't every other version of non-hard currency flopped within a matter of months historically?

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

There hasn't been 'hard currency gold backed' in just under 50 years.  U.S. came off the gold standard in 1971.

 

I'm not a banker, I'm not a cryptocurrency guy- but this will be just like Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc- able to be traded back and forth between them and others as well as back out to real world cash.

 

 

As for failing in a matter of months?  No. 

 

https://www.investopedia.com/tech/most-important-cryptocurrencies-other-than-bitcoin/

 

Among the others, Ethereum is doing just fine at the #2 position, and that makes this relevant- https://medium.com/@t24/anthony-di-iorio-co-founder-of-ethereum-joins-atari-e9f6df4cea2c

Link to comment
Share on other sites

So they have stated that the 2nd round of the Atari Token will be closed "10 days after the launch of the exchange platform".

 

The exchange platform is www.AtariChange.com which is now shown as Under Construction, Awesome Site in the Making.

 

Given the 3rd round is on the timeline for May, I suppose something is going to happen soon.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@Paul Slocum

 

“Just pointing out that the Plutonium Pirates game allegedly coming to the VCS was scheduled to have been released in 2018 but has been vaporware so far.  The perfect game partner for Atari!”

 

 Well none of us know for sure, isn’t it within the realm of possibilities that this was long since planned and agreed-upon? 

 

 Look close enough at the various different projects and you will see numerous people and companies that cross reference. 

 

 Call me a dreamer, call me an idiot – but I really feel Atari and others are hiding a lot of things for a lot of reasons, but one of which is waiting for all the projects to come together.

 

They are still behaving in  what I would say is immoral and less than ideal ways,  but they may literally have the reasons and just not communicating those well.  

 

 And yes, I am sure they have their fair share of screw ups and failures. 

 

 If they had said a year or more ago they would wait to release the console, game partners, game plan, waiting until all the partners were ready to go I am sure that would’ve been much better. 

 

 Problem is, it is hard enough to get a project of any decent scale off the ground, as soon as you add in numerous different companies with numerous different projects under the same umbrella shit goes sideways really really really quickly and quite easily.

 

We know for sure 100% that they plan on having the Atari token project included in the Atari Lands within Animoca’s sandbox game.  

 

 We know 100% that they want to have the Atari token functional on the Atari VCS. 

 

 If you look at people involved with those projects, and other companies, this is much bigger than most people are giving it credit for. 

 

 So yes I am being long-winded,....  but I feel that a Atari can be taken at face value when they say they have things going on that they just can’t release yet.  They just are not handling that correctly with how they are letting the public know. 

 

 

And that game?  Who doesn’t love a mini-chopper with Gatling guns??

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

You don't need many companies at all. Just one. Like real Atari back in the day. And real Atari never hid anything when they were getting started with the real VCS. They just put the stuff on the shelf, like magic, and it was magic. And it sold. Sold like hotcakes. No need for all this Tomfoolery.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yea man- you believe what you want.  One company did everything 45+ years ago...when Atari was a couple guys in a garage.  After that I'm pretty sure others were involved.

 

I'll concede not anywhere near as much contract as today's companies do, but that is intentional not just from Atari, but pretty many companies across any sectors.

 

Especially something of this scale, multifaceted.

 

Mobile apps are up-

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atari.atarimobile

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atari.crypto.wallet

 

And now Atari partnered with Arkane- https://www.atari.com/atari%EF%B8%8F-teams-up-with-arkane-network-to-integrate-the-atari-token-across-digital-entertainment-ecosystem/

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I believe in what works. I believe in real products produced by real companies. I believe in seeing stuff on the shelf (or 2-day delivery for e-commerce like amazon & ebay). Present day atari is incapable of any of that. You know that. Everybody knows that.

 

Again, it doesn't need to be this complex & overbloated. Just because other companies do it is no justification for atari's fumbling. Those other companies are flapping and floundering too. And who cares about scale? Scale means nothing. Sheer numbers mean nothing. I could care less if my neighbor has 100,000 goldfish and equipment from 75 suppliers. Wasted effort. They can sport all the heroics they want while going nowhere. But it IS amusing to watch them grind. Yes?

 

I don't really care about present-day atari. I only periodically post so other people can learn.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...