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Atari Flashback 9 HD B/W TV Type Switch?

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Ive read through the included instructions, the AtGames website FAQ, and tried various controller combinations, but Ive not found anything for the BW/Color (TV Type) switch.

 

If I remember correctly, you could access it on the FB 8 with a button/controller combination, but Ive not gotten that to work on the FB 9.

 

Does anyone know how to access it, or was it a total oversight on the FB 9?

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Anyway, anyone know an answer to this?

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Considering all HDTV's are color, why would you want to play games in black and white?

There are a handful of games that use the B/W switch for gameplay reasons, like Space Shuttle.

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Considering all HDTV's are color, why would you want to play games in black and white?

What Flomojo said above, as well......

 

At the time these were made not all TV's were color. It is not so much choosing to play in B&W, if you happen to be using the console on a B&W display (again very common back in the day) you would select the option so the games would simply look better on a black and white display. The output is tweaked to have better contrast etc. Not to dissimilar to old movies and TV shows that were filmed in black and white but knowing they would be viewed on B&W Television the actors and sets were actually very odd looking "color" palettes. For example, the old Superman series George Reeves wore a brown for red, gray for blue and white for yellow suit. This looked odd to people on set of course expecting the famous red, white , yellow suite but made for a more outstanding look on TV's that could only display B&W. Sadly, I am old enough to know this first hand but for reference and to verify what has been said already

 

http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-forgotten-switch-atari-2600s-b.html

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Wow, I didn't know that about the old Superman suit! It makes sense though. On that page there's a shot of a (more modern?) Supes shoot that was clearly a color suit photographed in black and white and it's way less contrasts and appealing than the gray one.

 

VCS Pac-Man seems much clearer and less flickery to me when set on black and white.

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There are a handful of games that use the B/W switch for gameplay reasons, like Space Shuttle.

 

Notably, Secret Quest -- included on (I believe) all Atari Flashbacks and the color/bw switch is required for the Status screen, which is where you change the weapon or object and get your continue password.

 

There are several other commercial games that use it, although I can't think of other ones included on the hardware off the top of my head. There are many homebrews that use it, like Anguna (for the map and status screen).

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Bring back memories though. Our second TV was black and white, and my dad had it in his head that video game consoles such as the 2600 would ruin a color TV. So combat and space invaders in B&W for me...

 

At some point, he must have figured out that wasn't the case. A couple of years later, he replaced it with a small color TV, and I could game away. That TV carried me through all the way until the 1st year of graduate school. I think I gave it away to someone that needed one.

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On 3/16/2019 at 10:20 PM, OldSchoolRetroGamer said:

What Flomojo said above, as well......

 

At the time these were made not all TV's were color. It is not so much choosing to play in B&W, if you happen to be using the console on a B&W display (again very common back in the day) you would select the option so the games would simply look better on a black and white display. The output is tweaked to have better contrast etc. Not to dissimilar to old movies and TV shows that were filmed in black and white but knowing they would be viewed on B&W Television the actors and sets were actually very odd looking "color" palettes. For example, the old Superman series George Reeves wore a brown for red, gray for blue and white for yellow suit. This looked odd to people on set of course expecting the famous red, white , yellow suite but made for a more outstanding look on TV's that could only display B&W. Sadly, I am old enough to know this first hand but for reference and to verify what has been said already

 

http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-forgotten-switch-atari-2600s-b.html

Immediately made me think of the Addams Family set

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On 7/15/2019 at 7:57 AM, Jimmygtr said:

Riddle of the Sphinx used this as well 😟 Would be nice if there was a solution to this with FB9.

I also remember Starmaster used it too for certain functions

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