Sound sample of the 810 formatting?

[leech]

Does anyone already have a sound sample of an 810 formatting a disk? You all know the sound, almost sounds like an angry member of the Three Stooges going Nyuck nyuck nyuck.

 

Thinking about making it my ringtone and / or message received sound on my phone.

[+Nezgar]

Maybe you can extract the sound from a video I made of an 810 with Revision C ROM formatting a disk:

 

[Alfred]

Not nearly enough clank in that. My 810 sounds like you're banging two metal pipes together.

[ACML]

Not nearly enough clank in that. My 810 sounds like you're banging two metal pipes together.

needs more cow bell.

[leech]

Not nearly enough clank in that. My 810 sounds like you're banging two metal pipes together.

Ha, yeah, I remember it being much louder. May have to find a disk I can format and hook mine up and see if it sounds like I remember it.

[+Nezgar]

You guys crack me up. Never would I have thought I would be chastized for my efforts to silence an 810. It's still too loud to me, lol!

 

Especially since I have about a 2/3 success rate almost completely silencing 1050's.

[Mclaneinc]

I worry more about wanting a format sound as a rig tone

 

A Happy 1050 going in to warp, now THAT I can understand but a lowly 810 format

 

I'm just jesting Leech, we all have our little 8 bit noises we love that remind us of good times..(Possibly not an 850 being initialised tho)

[leech]

I worry more about wanting a format sound as a rig tone

 

A Happy 1050 going in to warp, now THAT I can understand but a lowly 810 format

 

I'm just jesting Leech, we all have our little 8 bit noises we love that remind us of good times..(Possibly not an 850 being initialised tho)

Ha, well to be fair I had a Happy 1050 back in the day, but it didn't crack me up every time I formatted a disk, since it was just a bunch of really fast beeps. The 810 that my friend had, it formatted with some character!

 

I've debated whether I should get another happy upgrade for my 1050 (which I tested as still working) I've kind of done away with using floppy drives since I have several SD based solutions to that now. Though I may need to get one of those mutli-SIO devices so I can hook up more than one thing at a time...

 

There are a few people I sit near at work that actually used to own Atari 8-bits, and they'd crack up at hearing it.

[+DrVenkman]

I don't have an 810, but the sounds Avery uses in Altirra sure seem pretty spot-on to me (at least, how my stock 1050 sounds formatting a single-density disk).

[leech]

They definitely sound different than a 1050. I'll try to record mine over the weekend to see if it sounds like the one I remember.

[Gunstar]

I'll see if I can make a decent recording of mine with my phone and attach it here. No idea about rom revision or whatever, except it is currently still stock, works well and sounds awesome, IMHO. I'll format a disk using DOS 2.

 

If you are looking to reduce noise on either an 810 or 1050, a little bit of Lithium grease in the proper spots works wonders reducing noise and ensuring smoother operation. I think that is what happened to the 810 in the video above. I have NOT put grease on my 810 yet, since I got it 2 1/2 months ago.

Edited February 15, 2019 by Gunstar

[+Nezgar]

Rev B and C 810 roms will format the same audibly speaking. The difference in skew is accounted for in the verify stage code so it maintains the same per-track delay.

 

The patched 'Chicago' 810 ROM is slower in the verify stage because the read sector order wasnt also adjusted for the altered skew.

 

The disk in the video was formatted with SpartaDOS file system, so the VTOC/directory was only written to track 0 at the end of the format. An AtariDOS format would have an additional step to the middle of the disk for the bitmap and directory.

 

Happy and Archiver ROMs for 810 will likely be slightly different.

[Gunstar]

OK, here it is. I gave it my best shot. I moved around a bit, seeing if I could detect a spot where the sound was louder, but kept it close to the 810. To me, it seemed to sound like in the above video, but just a bit clearer in person. I haven't replayed the video yet myself except on the phone I shot it on.

 

EDIT:Apparently after watching it here, holding the camera up to the area where the Fuji is gets the best sound level.

 

Edited February 16, 2019 by Gunstar

[Alfred]

I don't have an 810, but the sounds Avery uses in Altirra sure seem pretty spot-on to me (at least, how my stock 1050 sounds formatting a single-density disk).

 

An old school 810 sounds nothing like a 1050. When you power it on, it sounds like a chef sharpening his knives, a kind of high pitch rasp/rasp. When you format a disk it's like like two pipes banging as it steps, clank,clank,clank. Just reading and writing disks, the noise is somewhere in between the rasp and the clank.

 

Edit: I guess mine is bad. Gunstar's is close, but not enough clank on the steps. The brrrrrrrp at the start and end sounds about right though, lol.

Edited February 16, 2019 by Alfred

[+DrVenkman]

I have some not-inconsiderable experience playing, comparing (and buying, once upon a time) some fairly high-end acoustic guitars. You guys remind me of some discussions I used to have way back in the day ...

[+Nezgar]

OK, here it is. I gave it my best shot. I moved around a bit, seeing if I could detect a spot where the sound was louder, but kept it close to the 810. To me, it seemed to sound like in the above video, but just a bit clearer in person. I haven't replayed the video yet myself except on the phone I shot it on.

 

Ah K, so for Atari DOS 2.0 I can year the one additional step out to the middle of the disk to write the VTOC (sector 360 on track 19) and then a single step to track 20 to write the directory on sectors 361-368. Then after the idle timeout, the final step back to track 39 before stopping the motor.

 

So both yours and my videos feature 810's with MPI mechs. I've never personally seen/heard the Tandon mech variant of the 810. Maybe it sounds different - or worse?

[leech]

 

Ah K, so for Atari DOS 2.0 I can year the one additional step out to the middle of the disk to write the VTOC (sector 360 on track 19) and then a single step to track 20 to write the directory on sectors 361-368. Then after the idle timeout, the final step back to track 39 before stopping the motor.

 

So both yours and my videos feature 810's with MPI mechs. I've never personally seen/heard the Tandon mech variant of the 810. Maybe it sounds different - or worse?

Yeah, I wonder if it was a particular combination of revision of the 810 and the DOS used to format it. I can't seem to locate my 810. Pretty sure I still have one somewhere though (time to finally unpack some of my crap I still have in boxes from when I moved a year ago.

[leech]

Bummer, I can't seem to find my 810. Could have sworn I still have one somewhere. Lost a bunch if stuff when I moved 8 years ago.