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Elite was one of the greatest games of all time, the code for the C64 version apart from the bitmap screen rendering engine should be identical but I have never heard anything for years.

 

Who is working on this, if anyone, right now?

 

If it is not being worked on I need to purchase a BBC Master 128 to play it on but the A8 should be able to do a version 90% the speed of the BBC as it doesn't have Commodore's ridiculous bitmap screen layout (which is effectively nothing more than 40x25 UDGs). The problem is the Acorn computers never had D9 joystick ports and playing this game with keys on the BBC Micro series isn't as fun but all other released/homebrew versions are too slow.

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The problem is the Acorn computers never had D9 joystick ports and playing this game with keys on the BBC Micro series isn't as fun but all other released/homebrew versions are too slow.

Jurgen (aka on here as: tf_hh) sells D9 adaptors for the beeb, which allows D9 joysticks to plug in and work with BBC micros and Masters.

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Jurgen (aka on here as: tf_hh) sells D9 adaptors for the beeb, which allows D9 joysticks to plug in and work with BBC micros and Masters.

 

Cheers. There is also a rare Competition Pro joystick for the BBC controller port which is much the same as the one they did for PC DOS era also analog game ports (resistors to hard wire hard left/right/up/down) but Elite on Acorn BBC only really works with analog input for playability unlike all other 8 bit ports for machines with Atari digital joystick interface which is a problem and down to the fact in 1984 BBC users only had the choice for those analog Phillips Videopac/Pong console type joysticks with no self centering.

 

More of a software issue just like A8 Elite is a software [MIA] issue :)

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Elite was one of the greatest games of all time, the code for the C64 version apart from the bitmap screen rendering engine should be identical but I have never heard anything for years.

 

Who is working on this, if anyone, right now?

 

If it is not being worked on I need to purchase a BBC Master 128 to play it on but the A8 should be able to do a version 90% the speed of the BBC as it doesn't have Commodore's ridiculous bitmap screen layout (which is effectively nothing more than 40x25 UDGs). The problem is the Acorn computers never had D9 joystick ports and playing this game with keys on the BBC Micro series isn't as fun but all other released/homebrew versions are too slow.

Wrathchild is behind one of the best attempts to port this to Atari imho.

Think problem turned out to be "simple" stuff like keyboard reading etc.Will ask him for details and why it isn't done yet :)

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Fixes to the keyboard handler were been put in place, though the A8's keyboard is still not ideally suited to the game as keyboard only.

 

With the C64 port I've enabled the launching of the ship from the space-station but the circle drawing routine needs sorting out and the star plots don't see right either so need addressing.

 

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[Edit] I might have also patched the key fixes to the BBC port in the version attached here

elitebbc.rom

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Wrathchild is behind one of the best attempts to port this to Atari imho.

Think problem turned out to be "simple" stuff like keyboard reading etc.Will ask him for details and why it isn't done yet :)

Thank you :)

 

I never liked the 16bit conversions, artistically they are horrible and even identifying ships at a distance useless (they are simple circles until it is too late). With a nicer bitmap memory layout and fast 6502 it is as ideal a machine for Elite as it is for the awesome Rescue on Fractalus.

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Fixes to the keyboard handler were been put in place, though the A8's keyboard is still not ideally suited to the game as keyboard only.

 

With the C64 port I've enabled the launching of the ship from the space-station but the circle drawing routine needs sorting out and the star plots don't see right either so need addressing.

 

attachicon.gifelite_wip_feb2019.png

 

[Edit] I might have also patched the key fixes to the BBC port in the version attached here

Beat me to it, thanks for the update :)

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as it [bBC] doesn't have Commodore's ridiculous bitmap screen layout

 

As a far as I know it shares the same layout, i.e. bit pairs giving 4 pixels per byte although in a different order than the C64/A8, IIRC "H3 H2 H1 H0 L3 L2 L1 L0" rather than "H3 L3 H2 L2 H1 L1 H0 L0".

Screen offsets (Hex) therefore look like:

 

First line:

 

00 08 10 etc to 138

01 09 11

02 0A 12

03 0B 13

04 0C 14

05 0D 15

06 0E 16

07 0F 17 etc to 13F

 

Second line:

 

140 148 150 etc

141 149 151

etc

On the A8 I went Antic F (Gr.15) bitmap rather than using Antic 2 (Gr. 0) so would have remapped the 3D ship plotting / line drawing etc and hence why the circle / stars are on the ToDo list

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Just keep nibbling at it, best way...

 

You do like a challenge M.

 

It would be nice to see it on the old Atari one day even if its not my sort of game (requires a brain)

 

Happy dev'ing

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There is also a rare Competition Pro joystick for the BBC controller port which is much the same as the one they did for PC DOS era also analog game ports (resistors to hard wire hard left/right/up/down) but Elite on Acorn BBC only really works with analog input for playability unlike all other 8 bit ports for machines with Atari digital joystick interface which is a problem and down to the fact in 1984 BBC users only had the choice for those analog Phillips Videopac/Pong console type joysticks with no self centering.

 

 

Philips videopac wasn't analog, just looked the part ;)

 

AFAIK there were some self-centering joysticks for the Beeb as well, EBay UK is probably the best place to find them.

 

I do have a Beeb but nevertheless Elite for the Atari would be a great addition.

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