tacrec Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Sorry if this has been posted before, just found it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If you like this, check out a great documentary called "All In The Game." It's gotten a lot of discussion here on AtariAge; see this thread and this thread for starters. In the second thread, you'll even see some comments from the director, who was kind enough to visit AtariAge and share some interesting information about the production. I only wish there had been more like it; it's a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at the period leading up to the video game crash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I did see that a while back. It’s a fascinating look behind the doors of Imagic. And it echos a lot of things I’ve heard from former Imagic programmers I’ve interviewed on The Intellivisionaries Podcast. An amazing place to work, full of extraordinarily talented and creative people who were, unfortunately, ultimately victims of the crash in ‘83. The good news is we (Intellivision Entertainment) have the rights to the full Imagic catalog now, so the games will see new life on the Intellivision Amico. And, while I can’t give specific details yet, I can say.. don’t be surprised if some of these original game programmers are involved in the new versions. Sent from my Keyboard Component using Jack's Conversational Intelli-talk cassette 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Very exciting! There's been a lot of ambiguity surrounding the ownership of the Imagic back catalog, so it's great to hear that these games will be coming back with new versions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Around 6 minutes, one of the game tester kids is playing Wing War on Intellivision. Has that code ever been found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Very, very exciting. Imagic (pronounced ee-magic, not i-magic, isn't it?) has always been by far my favorite third party vendor. If you guys are going to give it new life, I can't but be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If you like this, check out a great documentary called "All In The Game." It's gotten a lot of discussion here on AtariAge; see this thread and this thread for starters. In the second thread, you'll even see some comments from the director, who was kind enough to visit AtariAge and share some interesting information about the production. I only wish there had been more like it; it's a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at the period leading up to the video game crash. Any current links to that "All in The Game" doc you mention? Those threads are 10 years old and the links are all dead. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Any current links to that "All in The Game" doc you mention? Those threads are 10 years old and the links are all dead. Thanks. This is one of many reasons I hate to see "cloud-based" media distribution taking over: all-digital copies disappear all too easily. I found this after a quick search. It seems to be cut off at the end—the copy that I have ends with a few more minutes of Bill Grubb and Brad Stewart riding in a hot air balloon, no doubt doing "research" for the unreleased Sky Patrol—but otherwise it appears to be complete, and the video quality is much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP1BFvEtMgA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Does this video work for anyone, it says it's blocked in Canada. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TLacaw611LQ&feature=youtu.be -------------- Pat Ransil in the "just kidding" video was an Intellivision programmer and looks like he was the intellivision wing war programmer. Has any unreleased Imagic game been found. Imagic had a liquidation sale in the 1980s, did they bother to archive their work. Edit: In the video they give Pat credit for Safecracker where intellivisionlives.com credits Marvin Mednick. Edited March 3, 2019 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Thanks for the link, interesting viewing, I bet they wish they went public a week earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Thanks for the link, interesting viewing, I bet they wish they went public a week earlier.Indeed. Reportedly, the people within Imagic were convinced that Atari deliberately timed the preannouncement of their bad quarter specifically to interfere with Imagic's IPO. Imagic wasn't as lucky as Activision, which completed its IPO earlier and was thus in a better position to weather the crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Sorry if this has been posted before, just found it. Nice find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I did see that a while back. Its a fascinating look behind the doors of Imagic. And it echos a lot of things Ive heard from former Imagic programmers Ive interviewed on The Intellivisionaries Podcast. An amazing place to work, full of extraordinarily talented and creative people who were, unfortunately, ultimately victims of the crash in 83. The good news is we (Intellivision Entertainment) have the rights to the full Imagic catalog now, so the games will see new life on the Intellivision Amico. And, while I cant give specific details yet, I can say.. dont be surprised if some of these original game programmers are involved in the new versions. ... Can you say more about getting the rights. Was it all through the original Imagic investors and founding partners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Does this video work for anyone, it says it's blocked in Canada. -------------- Pat Ransil in the "just kidding" video was an Intellivision programmer and looks like he was the intellivision wing war programmer. Has any unreleased Imagic game been found. Imagic had a liquidation sale in the 1980s, did they bother to archive their work. Edit: In the video they give Pat credit for Safecracker where intellivisionlives.com credits Marvin Mednick. Pat Ransil programmed the Intellivision version of Atlantis. And according to the back of the Safecracker box, he did that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Can you say more about getting the rights. Was it all through the original Imagic investors and founding partners? I can't, other than no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Pat Ransil programmed the Intellivision version of Atlantis. He really did a great job, too. To me, Intellivision Atlantis is a perfect example of how to correctly do a conversion from the 2600 to the Intellivision: don't do a direct copy of the original, but use the Intellivision's capabilities to elaborate and expand upon the original design. Dennis Koble's original version is a fun game for what it is, but the Intellivision version feels more complete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSRSteve Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Pat Ransil programmed the Intellivision version of Atlantis. And according to the back of the Safecracker box, he did that too. Marvin Mednick's LinkedIn page says that HE programmed it. It was a port, right? They may have given credit to the original game designer (or they may have both programmed it) Edit: And Pat Ransil's page mentions Atlantis, but not Safecracker..... Edited March 3, 2019 by BSRSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I just checked the back of my Safecracker box—which looks just like this—and Marvin Mednick does indeed get sole game design credit. Pat Ransil was Director of Engineering and designed Imagic's development system, so perhaps that's how his name became associated with it. (It could also have been a simple error on the part of the people who made the video.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hmm... I don’t have my Safecracker box handy, but this is what Google told me... Sent from my Keyboard Component using Jack's Conversational Intelli-talk cassette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Is that a scan of an original box? It looks like a reproduction/reconstruction to me. Imagic's Intellivision boxes were never flat gray like that, and the fonts and layout don't match the original either.EDIT: Wow, that text is actually from Intellivision Atlantis! How did it end up on a Safecracker box?! Somebody clearly goofed. Here's the picture of the (real) Safecracker box that I linked earlier: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Maybe they were both involved; Pat as project manager and Marvin doing most of the programming. Safecracker is an original game for Intellivision. And Gary Kato (Intellivision Demon Attack) is credited with creating the Intellivision cross-assembler for imagic. http://www.classic-consoles-center.at/interviews/interview-with-gary-kato I can't, other than no. So the owner of the imagic properties is a secret. Are the rights that Intellivision Entertainment has exclusive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 US and international boxes are showing Marvin Mednick as designer. And Safcracker is an Intellivision original, no port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 EDIT: Wow, that text is actually from Intellivision Atlantis! How did it end up on a Safecracker box?! Somebody clearly goofed. Yeah, except for the title and the screenshots is everything else taken from Atlantis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Can you say more about getting the rights. Was it all through the original Imagic investors and founding partners? As far as I know, Activision bought the remains of Imagic after it's closedown. When you look at the most retro compilations over the last 25 years, the old Activision and Imagic games are coming most of the time together (even on Intellivision Rocks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The backs of the US and international instructions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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