What's the next best A2 emu ?

[Keatah]

With Applewin not having .woz or .a2r support, what's the next best a2 emu for the PC?

 

I suspect it might be OpenEmu, or MicroM8. I would've said MAME, but it has a lousy interface and is too cryptic for the average user. Not to mention those assinine "software lists".

 

What are you guys using?

[Aunty Entity]

GSplus here, but its the only one I've used... so can't say for sure its good or bad, but certainly acceptable to me

[zzip]

With Applewin not having .woz or .a2r support, what's the next best a2 emu for the PC?

 

I suspect it might be OpenEmu, or MicroM8. I would've said MAME, but it has a lousy interface and is too cryptic for the average user. Not to mention those assinine "software lists".

 

What are you guys using?

 

FYI - mednafen recently added Apple II support. I found that the current release still has serious issues, but it's worth keeping an eye on.

 

Apart from that, I haven't found an apple2 emulator that I loved

[hoserama99]

On 3/21/2019 at 7:30 PM, Keatah said:

With Applewin not having .woz or .a2r support, what's the next best a2 emu for the PC?

 

I suspect it might be OpenEmu, or MicroM8. I would've said MAME, but it has a lousy interface and is too cryptic for the average user. Not to mention those assinine "software lists".

 

What are you guys using?

I would actually say MAME. I'll grant you the cryptic interface, but I can fire up any arbitrary floppy like so:

 

mame64 apple2ee -flop1 <path_to.woz> 

I did this a lot when I was creating woz files from my originals last year. I honestly don't know how the software lists figure into it - I never bumped into issues with them.

 

Anyway, with regards to emulation accuracy, I tested my woz dumps in Virtual ][, OpenEmulator and MAME, and compared all to my real //e as I did each dump. MAME was consistently the most accurate.

[chainedlupine]

I hope more emulators get better debuggers.  MicroM8 is the only one I've found so far (that runs on Linux/Windows) which has a decent debugger.

 

I find the A2-like debugger in AppleWin to be only useful for quick checks, and a lot of its functionality is still unfinished, like saving/restoring breakpoints.

 

For me, MicroM8 doesn't do sound very well (it has a lot of choppy cut-outs) and I've had to fall back to AppleWin for testing sound routines.

 

Haven't tried MAME yet.

[polyex]

One reason I keep using a Mac is Virtual ][

 

[Arbee]

MAME has a very powerful debugger, and you can write Lua scripts for it to control the emulated machine (a bot that auto-plays Karateka, for instance).  You can ignore the software lists if you don't understand them and just run arbitrary disk images, like hoserama99 says.  Or you can grab a software list torrent and have everything 4AM's ever released at your fingertips.  Plus the only Rev. C SCSI Card emulation in existence, and it can even boot an .ISO of the Golden Orchard CD-ROM.

 

And the next version will have ComputerEyes, JoyPort, and 4Play support plus fixes for 3200 color programs on the IIgs, and a complete set of hooks to embed MAME inside an external frontend, so the MAME interface goes completely away and you get (with the example we're shipping) something that looks a lot like VICE.

 

800K .WOZ and SuperDrive support are coming later this year.

Edited August 15, 2019 by Arbee