artrag Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Hi all, where can I find a easy to read description of the BIOS, in order to be able to disassemble and understand the code of old games ? Specifically, how does 0x1fbe (PUT_VRAM) work? PS I'm trying to support TIX in hacking Venture, but new I need to alter some details of the initialization code PPS I've followed for a while the code in the BIOS. It seems written by someone who has never seen a z80 (!!)... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfCv Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) The Colecovision Programmer's Manual includes a commented listing of the BIOS. http://www.colecovisionzone.com/page/coleco%20industries/programmers.html Note that the scan is missing a couple of pages though. Edited April 25, 2019 by ChildOfCv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harris Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I second this motion.Although the Programmer's Manual does have information it is neither complete nor does it have examples.I have tried all sorts of fooling around within Assembly at a great many hours with little success because I might not be meeting previous criteria as in setting up an address or patterns.Shape Tables, Put Frame.... Just a ton of stuff.What is true in any forum is that when you are in a company and working on a game there are those who you can go to for tips, advice and knowledge that you will never find in a classroom or an over engineered technical manual.Going through past posts from the old Coleco Programmers Yahoo Group there was more participation and now that the new programmers are coming of age it seems no one wrote a guidebook nor has the time to share knowledge. Some even have businesses to run.I can not speak for others but If someone wrote a comprehensive programmers guide to the ADAM/Colecovision/SGM in Assembly language with examples then I would pay top dollar for it.If I had to suspect then I would bet money that half you guys out there already have tons of code written down already just not compiled and bound together in some Coleco Programmers Bible.I swear, I am on fire to make software but I spend days just trying to figure stuff out that you guys have already done years ago just looking at the games you have released and the strain of inching forward is a huge turn off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 there is a commented source code listing of the Coleco BIOS somewhere . That you can even assemble directly. I will have to dig in my hard-drive to find it , but i'm sure with Google you will find it may be faster than me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekmaul Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Are you talking about this one youki ? coleco29.asm.txt Edited April 27, 2019 by alekmaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artrag Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Yes thank you BTW, just to know, could I do a 32KB rom and assume it will appear from 8000h to FFFFh without any specific care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Put_vram is a routine that load the data to the VDP from ROM designation to VRAM designation. In C, to use it if I want to update the screen with some tiles, I do put_vram(0x1800,StatusInfo,32);Basically it is;put_vram(VRAMaddress,SourceAddressinRAMorROM,count);I use it to load uncompressed graphic data to the VRAM. PS:Maybe I misunderstood this topic. It been a long week. If it helps, newcoleco homebrew kit have the source code in asm if you look in getput11, and lib4k folder. I think it's best to build Venture from the ground up because there are stuff that is missing in the Colecovision version from the arcade version. It's a lot harder to kill the enemies in the arcade version, plus there's 24 missing treasure graphics too. Edited April 27, 2019 by Kiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artrag Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 I'm using ASM not C, the OS function is different. Thanks anyway, I'm fine with the bios documents already posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfCv Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Yes thank you BTW, just to know, could I do a 32KB rom and assume it will appear from 8000h to FFFFh without any specific care? The BIOS is 8K and goes from 0 to 3FFF. A cartridge is up to 4x8K. You can't just use a single ROM chip because the CV gives you an activation line for each 8K of ROM space. Some glue logic would allow you to activate a ROM chip on any of those 4, and then the ROM would connect to lines A14-A0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artrag Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Thanks! These are great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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