Rick Dangerous Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 So the Wii U was the first generation of Nintendo games that received patches and updates. It makes me wonder; will most of the games be playable 20 years down the road when the servers are gone and the updates are no longer available? Actually probably 5-10 years from now....or now.....since everyone seems to have written off the Wii U about 5 years ago. What are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Many of its best games were released on the Switch. I hear that Wii U emulation on PC is coming along. The games are covered from that perspective. Are there games on the Wii U that won't run unless they phone home first? I would think that anything that required a system patch would include it on the disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazball Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I don't see why it should be a major problem, since any disc game should be playable and complete unpatched. I think a bigger concern for Wii U down the line is simply the lack of units sold. I draw a comparison with Jaguar (and others) in that it didn't sell well, so it will cause the value of the consoles to go up many years later. On top of that, the Wii U Gamepad wasn't available as a solo purchase at retail (afaik) so as more and more Gamepads break, it will make complete working consoles even rarer. There are many games that require the Gamepad to function properly, so that will be the biggest bottleneck in the long-term future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarilovesyou Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Updates notwithstanding, I'm more concerned about the discs themselves. I've run into not one but TWO Mariokart discs that have micro scratches from the topside that render the games useless. I've done some interwebz reading and it seems this is a thing for the Wii U, and other Bluray based games discs. Let's just say I'm going to extremely careful when buying used Wii U games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I don't think the Wii U is that much different from other systems of this era. The games are going to play if you can find a working system combined with a working game. That's going to be harder over time with all the disc-based systems. The patch thing I don't think really matters in the long run - most games don't ship as a buggy mess, so they're still perfectly playable even without the patch. (Some games just won't let you play online if you don't have the patch, but you won't be able to play older games online anyway in the future.) I do agree that working Wii U systems in general will be hard to find in the future. Ultimately I'm not sure how sought after the system's going to be, though, because probably 90% of the good stuff on it will be on the Switch. I can see real diehard Nintendo fans wanting one, but it's probably going to be more of a collector's system than something people buy to actually play all those Wii U classics on. So boxed/pristine ones will be through the roof expensive, while beat up regular ones won't be worth jack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I don't see it being an issue for *most* games. A select few do require large updates in order to play, like Xenoblade Chronicles X. What I would like to see is a list of games that require patches in order to play so people can start to think about workarounds for those. The Wii U is easily hacked and so that will be what people have to look into for games that can no longer connect to download servers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I wonder whether once the PS3, 360, and Wii U stop updating games whether we'll see consoles sold at a premium because they are loaded with fully-patched versions of popular, exclusive games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 I wonder whether once the PS3, 360, and Wii U stop updating games whether we'll see consoles sold at a premium because they are loaded with fully-patched versions of popular, exclusive games. I have thought about this as well; as i've pondered looking for an Xbox 360 with Afterburner Climax already on the HDD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I have thought about this as well; as i've pondered looking for an Xbox 360 with Afterburner Climax already on the HDD. I *almost* made the exact same post the other day. So if there are two of us looking for systems for just this one game, I can imagine this will become more prevalent over time as games get delisted. I feel like publishers might at some point just do away with the idea of "ownership" over these games though; you're already seeing the beginnings of that with some of the services. Eventually when a game is delisted, you won't be able to play it even though you had it before. It'll be more like Netflix. So I think this period of time when you even *can* buy a console for its preinstalled games is probably temporary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulletino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I have thought about this as well; as i've pondered looking for an Xbox 360 with Afterburner Climax already on the HDD. I really hope my PS3 doesn't break, I have it on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 This is really interesting. I didn't know about Afterburner Climax, so in researching it I came across this site: https://delistedgames.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Afterburner Climax is back on mobile as part of Sega Forever. If you bought it on PS3 or 360 it will remain in your download list. If you didn't buy it the first time around, shame on you, I guess? But it's just a game. Don't hate me but I'm pretty sure I bought this but never played it. Or hate me if you must, my life will go on. Should I play the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) I don't see why it should be a major problem, since any disc game should be playable and complete unpatched. I think a bigger concern for Wii U down the line is simply the lack of units sold. I draw a comparison with Jaguar (and others) in that it didn't sell well, so it will cause the value of the consoles to go up many years later. On top of that, the Wii U Gamepad wasn't available as a solo purchase at retail (afaik) so as more and more Gamepads break, it will make complete working consoles even rarer. There are many games that require the Gamepad to function properly, so that will be the biggest bottleneck in the long-term future. I hear what you're saying, though the Jaguar is probably a bit of an extreme comparison. The Wii U didn't sell all that well, but was mainstream and sold well over 13 million units. The Jaguar was a novelty item where only a few hundred thousand were ever even built. Nintendo sold over a hundred million Wii U discs too. Edited May 15, 2019 by DracIsBack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Don't hate me but I'm pretty sure I bought this but never played it. Or hate me if you must, my life will go on. Should I play the game? No - I'll trade you my PS3 that doesn't have it for yours that does plus the price of the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 That would not be a fair trade. Especially since I would restore the original hdd in it, zeroed and deactivated from my account. I wouldn't say "over my dead body," but who lets go of hardware with digital purchases on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I have a couple of old Xbox 360s that I got from Shopgoodwill. Because of this thread, I went through the games of one of the units, which still "logs in" with the owner's username when turned on. There's a delisted game demo on the HDD: Poker Night 2. The game features characters from other videogame properties. There was no reason for it to renew the licenses for these characters because the game company was about to go belly up, so the game was delisted. To me, that's no reason to keep this console around, but it would be interesting to get a list of the most desirable delisted games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 People talk about PT as highly desirable because it's no longer available. I don't like horror games so the appeal is lost on me. https://delistedgames.com/all-games/has everything laid out. Like anything, there's a lot of crap. No one needed to play "Yaris" the first time around, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerj Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I have thought about this as well; as i've pondered looking for an Xbox 360 with Afterburner Climax already on the HDD. Same here. Ive kicked myself 100 times for not downloading it when I had the chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
power Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 the scene will keep up to date releases alive, just as they do every other platform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Was that one publicized? I hate it when they quietly just disappear. Almost missed out several games like Sega Rally Online Arcade, but have gotten lucky and happened to buy several games I wanted just weeks before quietly getting pulled. So far I've only missed out on two Data East PSP Minis that I wanted to buy and Mercury Hg for the PS3/360. Mercury particularly annoyed me as a fan of the previous PSP releases (And the PS2 and Wii games). I went to buy it months ago and saw it was gone off the Xbox and Playstation marketplaces, but GameStop still had PS3 codes. But instead of buying it then, I waited and figured I'd grab it a few weeks later. Then I completely forgot about it until about a week after Sony forced online retailers to end sales of DLC and game codes. I knew that was happening since Sony publicized the change and I even made sure to buy the delisted PSP version of Activision Anthology for my PSTV (Delisted but GameStop still was selling codes), but just forgot all about Mercury Hg. And Flojo mentioned Yaris. That one was so bad it's deleted on my 360 and I've even deleted that I ever played it from my Xbox game history. Wasn't even a good game for the achievement hunters since I bet I spent 20 minutes on it and didn't get a single one. Edited August 2, 2019 by Atariboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Afterburner Climax https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sega.afterburnerclimax&hl=en_US also on iOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidLikesIntellivision Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Gamepad battery is what worries me. Is it possible to change it? How can these gamepad work without battery replacement available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamemoose Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, LidLikesIntellivision said: Gamepad battery is what worries me. Is it possible to change it? How can these gamepad work without battery replacement available? Yes-it just takes the right tools, some instructions and a little courage. The question really is how long will the batteries be available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 The games themselves likely will be fine. Most patches are done for the sake of patching and largely not needed (regardless of console/game) I find it far more likely that the gamepad is going to be the week link, as finding a battery will be an issue in short order, it's a required part, and, as the system only needed one, there are far fewer of them than other controller types. Just under that will be the optical drive, this is the week link on most disc based consoles, but I imagine like pre 2k disc consoles, by then, a fix will be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Most people complain when handheld systems and controllers such as the wii remotes use battery cells, but we'll be able to use them forever! Edited October 4, 2019 by roots.genoa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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