CPUWIZ Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I hope you mean $0450. Actually, on my board the POKEY can be anywhere from $0400-$0480 and $0500-$0580, I will find it in any of those ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Thanks. About that last bin ... it uses an obscure POKEY and SKCTL setting which only works on real hardware, not on emulation. On the 8-bit computer this was used to generate modem carriers, DTMF tones, floppy disk beeps, etc. Channel 1 is silenced and controls frequency, channel 0 is a modulator. This can produce SID type sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Thanks. About that last bin ... it uses an obscure POKEY and SKCTL setting which only works on real hardware, not on emulation. On the 8-bit computer this was used to generate modem carriers, DTMF tones, floppy disk beeps, etc. Channel 1 is silenced and controls frequency, channel 0 is a modulator. This can produce SID type sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Albert said: Excellent! I just fired this up on a real console, and of course I had to use paddles. I ran into this issue pretty quickly and was going to report it! I didn't have POKEY audio so I couldn't hear the music, but the sound effects are all good, the game looks great, and it plays very well! I've always enjoyed Arkanoid, so it's damn cool to see it on the 7800. Really excited to see how this continues to develop. One thing I noticed. If you don't have a controller plugged in when the game boots up, it immediately starts a game! I didn't realize right away that you had to plug the paddles into the second controller port. Once I did that and had a joystick plugged into the first port, everything was good. But would be nice if the errant behavior when a controller isn't plugged in is fixed. Also, I like that with a joystick controller you can hit the second controller button to speed up the paddle. I was going to complain that the paddle was moving too slow until I discovered this. Very nice! Keep up the great work! ..Al 2 hours ago, Trebor said: I find myself holding the button the entire game with joystick controls. Perhaps the behavior should be reversed. Press the button to slow Vaus down, no button held and its speed reflects what is currently set with the button held. If such was implemented, for those that don't care to utilize a slowed Vaus, it opens the door to being able to use a favorite one button controller too. 2 hours ago, Albert said: I concur. When using a joystick, I would always hold down the button. Edit: This could always be added as an option as well, "Default Paddle Speed: [Fast | Slow]" ..Al I actually only just changed the button configuration once the laser was completed but really the movement is probably the number 1 behaviour of the game! I really hadn't thought of the single button controller but I guess not everyone may have the 2 button one nowadays!) What I was thinking was to update the joystick controller options to: Joystick (1 button) - this will do both the speed control and laser [i was thinking this may have unintended consequence moving faster when firing but don't think there is another option] Joypad (2 buttons) - speed on button 1 and fire on button 2 (reverse layout of current) The speed option is also a consideration - let me know your thoughts. Maybe we can test them both over the next few weeks. I could also add some gfx (or another screen in the title area) to show the button configurations? Will think about that. The no controller issue is a strange one! I'll see what I can do to add any additional checks for this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) Update: I've just added the new joystick/joypad option outlined above and it works pretty well on first go. Will be in the next release ? Edited July 14, 2019 by mksmith 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Maybe you missed my question, how much RAM do you actually use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said: Maybe you missed my question, how much RAM do you actually use? Sorry @CPUWIZ! We are currently using a 128kb ROM. Ram? 7800basic can set aside $4000-7fff. I hope that answers your question?? Edited July 15, 2019 by mksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 You mean 128K ROM + ??K RAM + POKEY. I need to know what ?? is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) Sorry mate - new to most of this stuff!! @RevEng Mike can you help with this one?? I am using the 128kRAM selection but I can change that to 128k by the looks. We need extra ram for the DL as the base wasn't enough. Here is my configuration if that helps: set romsize 128kRAM set dlmemory $4000 $4fff rem RAM rem brickram stores the color of the brick rem brickhitram stores the number of hits required to remove a brick rem brickcapsuleram stores the bricks where capsules can be dropped dim brickram = $2200 ; (11*16-176bytes/$b0) dim brickhitram = $22b0 ; (11*16-176bytes/$b0) dim brickcapsuleram = $2360 ; (11*16-176bytes/$b0) rem POKEY/Music dim TUNEAREA = $2600 ; Can work with above dim POKEYADR = $450 Edited July 15, 2019 by mksmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 The 128kRAM format has 16k ram (from 4000-7FFF). If you're only using the extra RAM for the DL now, it looks like you're actually using 4K of that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, RevEng said: The 128kRAM format has 16k ram (from 4000-7FFF). If you're only using the extra RAM for the DL now, it looks like you're actually using 4K of that. Thanks, Al wants me to run this on my board, because! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said: Thanks, Al wants me to run this on my board, because! Because, POKEY! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, RevEng said: The 128kRAM format has 16k ram (from 4000-7FFF). If you're only using the extra RAM for the DL now, it looks like you're actually using 4K of that. If we can make things easier is their anything we can change here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I am just asking, because the 7800 is a bitch and I have had to buy shitloads of different kind of narrow SRAM chips and had some issues with using the full address range. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, mksmith said: If we can make things easier is their anything we can change here? If you can free up any used memory from $22e4 to $27ff, then you can use "set extradlmemory on", and change to "set romsize 128k". That will give you 20 objects per zone, which should be enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Here's the updated binaries for my attempt at that arkanoid 2 level start theme using the SKCTLS setting. I've included versions with POKEY both at $4000 and $450. They will not work on emulation. Prosystem plays it out of tune, and A7800 not at all. Would be very keen to hear if it plays accurately on real HW. arkanoid2-levelstart.A78 arkanoid2-levelstart.asm arkanoid2-levelstart.bin arkanoid2-levelstart-450.A78 arkanoid2-levelstart-450.asm arkanoid2-levelstart-450.bin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 My setup is in flux right now, because I am working on something more powerful, than the MCP in it's current state. So I am pretty sure, Trebor can run arkanoid2-levelstart-450.bin. I did mention before, that BIN's don't need to be signed on my cart, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 mksmith, meanwhile, if it could be useful... 7800 Arkanoid_DOH graphic_160B_6 colors and 160A_3 colors.bmp 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 That's getting me excited. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 And in the interlace 160A mode, should we end up doing that in the NTSC retool ... you can have either 4 (if you only use 2 red shades), or the full 6 if you use three red shades plus the BG. We can get that cool two or 3 level shading on the bg as well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, Defender_2600 said: mksmith, meanwhile, if it could be useful... 7800 Arkanoid_DOH graphic_160B_6 colors and 160A_3 colors.bmp 27.8 kB · 2 downloads Awesome - sent you a PM 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: You mean 128K ROM + ??K RAM + POKEY. I need to know what ?? is. @CPUWIZ Mike has worked his magic and we have removed the extra RAM requirement ? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 This also means, you have an extra 16K of ROM @ $4000. Although, I did write code for the PLD, to handle your case, earlier. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Can one of you PM me a $0450 raw BIN, without RAM, so I can give the code for the PLD to Al? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 Sure will do now ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like us on Facebook
Follow us on Twitter
AtariAge on Instagram
Watch us on YouTube
Chat on Discord
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.