mr. engino Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I know for a fact that 3d games do exist for the ST (3D galax being the only known example), but I wonder, just what exactly is the st capable of with 3d, in terms of games and demoscene?(And other stuff too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 There is nothing in ST, STE, TT, Falcon what specifically supports 3D graphics. But ST was pretty much good for 3D of that time because: powerful CPU, lot of RAM (of course all is relative, for it's time), display where each pixel could have own color - well from available palette. And we know: only 16 colors. But that was actually good for 3D - less colors, less video RAM, so faster draw on screen. And 16 colors were enough for that simple 3D. Most known 3D games on ST: Starglider 1 and 2 - first is vector (line) 3D, second is polygon (filled with some color) type. Flight Simulator 2. Formula 1 GP. No Second Prize - probably fastest polygon 3D, at price of min 1 MB RAM. ST could display even some not so good looking textured graphic, but at very low frame rate. Something about 100 MHz 32 bit CPU and more colors are needed for that. "3D galax being the only known example" - Jesus ... where are you from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zogging Hell Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I suspect for a short while in the mid 80s it was probably the best consumer system you could buy for 3D graphics (without spending lots of money), though I'm sure some super PC of the time (fast 286 upwards) with some specialist cards could beat it easily, or some exotic custom hardware. I would also stick my neck out and say it is a trifle ahead of the Amiga on that front. There are a shed load of 3D games on the ST, other notables (as well as Paranoid's list) include things like Falcon, Conqueror, Virus, Carrier Command, Battle Command, Thunderhawk, Elite and Frontier (as well as a shed load of other tank and plane simulators). There are also some excellent apps including Antic's 3D stuff and the 3D construction kit. The ST also has a very nice version of Wolfenstein if we include fake 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Well let's not forget Epic and interphase. The only thing missing is support for math co processors on the st and the ste. That would have helped a lot on the application side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimero Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 If we are talking about serious software, then 3ds Max was born on ST and later ported to PC DOS (CAD 3D > Autodesk 3D Studio > 3ds max). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. engino Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 Ok, good to know! I only asked as I had this weird daydream of 2 new ssb characters that represented Atari; a Mr. Game&watch-esque one for the 2600, and another 3d character for the ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD-i Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Not to forget these nice 3D games Hunter (kind of GTA grandpa) Trex Warrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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