imstarryeyed Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I so would like to get this machine with an upgraded Yoke to be installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Jeff Vav has been around the emulation game for decades, putting out quality products. If he's involved - and I have the money and a spouse who will allow me to get one, both unlikely - I'm in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Inky said: Jeff Vav has been around the emulation game for decades, putting out quality products. If he's involved - and I have the money and a spouse who will allow me to get one, both unlikely - I'm in. emulation only gets you so far, and is only part of the story. the sensitivity and handling of the controller will make or break whether the game is worth playing and lives up to the original. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) I haven't touched every last emulation project that Code Mystics has done (Rare Replay is a big one I haven't played, for an example). But Atari Vault, the Atari Flashback Classics line, and the two volume Atari Greatest Hits collections on the original DS have all been top notch. So I fully agree with Inky and believe one can buy this and be reasonably assured that if it has any problems, it's highly unlikely to be at the emulation end. I only have ever spotted a single emulation issue in any of these, with Red Baron not saving high score data on the DS. That's literally been the sole flaw I've ever noticed in their Atari emulation work. Alas all the Midway arcade games in Lego Dimensions that they handled aren't in good shape with severe visual artifacts and slowdown, but I'm pretty sure that's all the fault of a later and sadly final patch to the game from Traveller's Tales that I believe inadvertently broke the arcade games. Edited July 18, 2019 by Atariboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Atariboy said: I haven't touched every last emulation project that Code Mystics has done (Rare Replay is a big one I haven't played, for an example). But Atari Vault, the Atari Flashback Classics line, and the two volume Atari Greatest Hits collections on the original DS have all been top notch. So I fully agree with Inky and believe one can buy this and be reasonably assured that if it has any problems, it's highly unlikely to be at the emulation end. I only have ever spotted a single emulation issue in any of these, with Red Baron not saving high score data on the DS. That's literally been the sole flaw I've ever noticed in their Atari emulation work. Alas all the Midway arcade games in Lego Dimensions that they handled aren't in good shape with severe visual artifacts and slowdown, but I'm pretty sure that's all the fault of a later and sadly final patch to the game from Traveller's Tales that I believe inadvertently broke the arcade games. the emulation might be good, but for the vast majority of games that require spinners, trackballs etc, they are barely playable with analog sticks, and dpads. so again, its more an issue with the controls being right and sensitive enough (although they had sensitivity settings in atari vault) it didn't help much. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I was talking solely about the quality of their software emulation. You're talking about something very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Atariboy said: I was talking solely about the quality of their software emulation. You're talking about something very different. it could have the best emulation in the world, be pixel perfect, and framerate accurate. wouldn't make a difference if the controls don't work properly, or aren't the right types. a lot of complaints about arcade 1up are all about the controls, only a few people have complained about the software emulation, which isn't even that great either. but unless there's a show stopping bug, most people don't care that much about it, only purists, hardcore players, and fans of that game. later -1 Edited July 19, 2019 by negative1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) I don't disagree, I was just pointing out that I was never talking about all of that. I was 100% just talking about the job being done at Code Mystics. There's going to be issues here no doubt, but I'm quite certain those problems aren't going to revolve around the emulator that Code Mystics is programming. I'm quite confident that their emulator will run these games well. They'll look how they should, sound as they should, and perform as they should. Any issues will be downstream from that with the physical controls that Arcade1Up is developing, the hardware that they're utilizing like the LCD display, etc. But the emulation side is in good hands and I can confidently predict based off past experience with their products that they'll do their part of the job correctly. Edited July 19, 2019 by Atariboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffVav Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/18/2019 at 5:48 PM, negative1 said: the emulation might be good, but for the vast majority of games that require spinners, trackballs etc, they are barely playable with analog sticks, and dpads. so again, its more an issue with the controls being right and sensitive enough (although they had sensitivity settings in atari vault) it didn't help much. later -1 The trackpad on PS4 and touch screen on Switch help. Regarding the controller, I know they're taking great care fussing over getting it right, and the prototype I've used felt familiar. The muscle memory kicked in quite naturally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, JeffVav said: The trackpad on PS4 and touch screen on Switch help. Regarding the controller, I know they're taking great care fussing over getting it right, and the prototype I've used felt familiar. The muscle memory kicked in quite naturally. Thats great to hear. I know some expert players on Star Wars, they are very picky when it comes to the controls. If they nail that, there will be a lot of happy people out there. Empire Strikes Back is much rarer, and I don't remember anyone getting good at that. Return of the Jedi had its fans, but only a few people I knew were ever any good at it. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffVav Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 In all the time we've spent testing our emulation I have two observations about Return of the Jedi that nag at me: 1. Darth Vader is heard saying "leave them to me. I will deal with them myself" and then never does. That's the first and last time you hear from him. 2. The notion of Chewie being attacked by "homing logs" is kind of trippy and suggests that Ewok technology is more advanced than it seems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I remember my ROTJ cabinet test mode had a bunch of other phrases built into it that you could run through. I never checked if that was possible with the ROMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) Apparently a newer demo was shown at comic-con: From facebook: "We’ve had several experts and enthusiasts test our prototype yoke here at SDCC and they all came away pretty pleased for a commercial home arcade cabinet. It still needs work but we’re on it and and taking feedback at the show. Is it going to be exactly like the $500 after market yokes? No, that’s not feasible. But we are confident people will be happy with our final product. We are treating the Star Wars license with love and respect and working with the Lucasfilm team on the code and artwork to make the best experience possible. This is not some 2600 knock-off posing as the arcade version either. This is a labor of love. Lucasfilm is excited for THIS home arcade product!" I'm not sure if the actual demo was a playable one, but it seems like it from all the posts. looks like it is: at 10:24 later -1 Edited July 22, 2019 by negative1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 footage of playable version: the game is live for pre-order for $499 at gamestop. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 ? All I want for Christmas is you ? https://m.gamestop.com/product/vintage-software/consoles/star-wars-home-arcade-game-with-riser/179918 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 ugh ... I just placed a pre-order for this thing. I hope it doesn't disappoint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 game will include difficulty settings, and scanline option for jedi: later -1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simbalion Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I'm liking this machine more all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JeffVav Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 hours ago, negative1 said: game will include difficulty settings, and scanline option for jedi: later -1 We always like to offer options. There are options for the vector render too. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalani Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 2:38 AM, JeffVav said: Arcade1Up has a licensing guru for this sort of thing. All I know is it's complicated. More complicated than you might imagine. Which is probably why this hasn't really been done before. They need to do X-Men vs street fighter next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Machine is out, and reviews should be showing up on youtube. One is here: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/275757-budget-atari-and-capcom-arcade-cabinets-to-see-release-this-fall/?do=findComment&comment=4369474 later -1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 And here's my simple review. Great job Jeff!!! https://atariage.com/forums/topic/275757-budget-atari-and-capcom-arcade-cabinets-to-see-release-this-fall/?do=findComment&comment=4374383 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coleco Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Wal-Mart has this on sale today for $399. I got free shipping, too. Could not resist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Coleco said: Wal-Mart has this on sale today for $399. I got free shipping, too. Could not resist. Congrats, it's a great thing. I paid full price plus tax and it was worth every penny. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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