LAST DAY - Rotary Controller up on eBay

[Tyrant]

Just to let you all know, I've put up another Rotary Controller up on eBay, its only a 5 day auction, but there will be a few more fairly soon after this one, since as pointed out I do have some already prepared and ready to sell.

 

Good luck to all bidding, and should you have any questions, drop me a pm, or an email, or a reply here.

 

You can find the auction here on eBay.co.uk and eBay.com.

[thund3r]

this is deffinatly a good perchase as there are very handy for t2k

 

top marks go to tyrant

[Thunderbird]

That knob looks like it's not very strong and if you dropped it or tripped over the cord it would hit the knob and cause it to break or the mechanical workings inside would get broken or pulled from the board. I leave my cables hanging loosely about the center of the room, so this happens all the time.

 

I wouldn't buy a product with such little consideration given to testing in real life situations.

[Hyxtryx]

On the rotary controller, Paolo says:

 

I thought I would have been disappointed with a non-continuos rotating knob, but I was wrong.

 

Does this mean the knob comes to an end of rotation and you can't keep spinning it in one direction?

[Stone]

Does this mean the knob comes to an end of rotation and you can't keep spinning it in one direction?

 

No. You can continue to turn the knob forever without there being an end. What he means is that it doesn't spin freely as the arcade one is reputed to do (I've never used one). Instead it has a 'detent' action - 32 soft 'clicks' per complete revolution. In other words, it stops instantly once you let go, rather than having inertia.

 

Stone

[lais]

That knob looks like it's not very strong and if you dropped it or tripped over the cord it would hit the knob and cause it to break or the mechanical workings inside would get broken or pulled from the board. I leave my cables hanging loosely about the center of the room, so this happens all the time.  

 

I wouldn't buy a product with such little consideration given to testing in real life situations.

 

You can't tell by looking at a picture. I've tested them and can say that the (aluminium) knob is very sturdy and you'd have to be pretty careless to break it. Yes, it could be made industrial-strength to stand up to arcade cabinet levels of abuse, but then the cost would elevate beyond people's expectations for a general consumer device, and it would be bulky and cumbersome. In my opinion Tyrant has done an excellent job within the constraint of the original Atari controller, such that it not only looks stylish (it could have been made like this by Atari itself) but works well, too. I inspected the guts of one of these controllers at JagFest UK, they are about as good as they'll get without costly machining and reinforcement.

 

While I'm on the subject, I also saw the ScatBox at JagFest UK and I'd like to say the standard of materials and product presentation is impeccable, even the quality of the shrink wrap and dimensional precision of the cardboard box are worthy of mention. Job well done.

[Thunderbird]

While I'm on the subject, I also saw the ScatBox at JagFest UK and I'd like to say the standard of materials and product presentation is impeccable, even the quality of the shrink wrap and dimensional precision of the cardboard box are worthy of mention. Job well done.

 

Thanks for noticing. I really put my best efforts into making a product you guys would find as carefully designed as anything that comes out for the PSX or XBOX or Gamecube. I appreciate the feedback. Thanks!

[Hyxtryx]

No. You can continue to turn the knob forever without there being an end. What he means is that it doesn't spin freely as the arcade one is reputed to do (I've never used one). Instead it has a 'detent' action - 32 soft 'clicks' per complete revolution.

 

Thanks. I saw the 'detent' mentioned, but I wanted to double check the meaning of 'non-continous'

 

So 1 click moves you one cell then, I take it?

[Tyrant]

So 1 click moves you one cell then, I take it?

Actually no 4 clicks move you one step, but thats true with digital pads too, if you tap one, you'll see there are 4 steps of animation before you move to the next segment.

[Tyrant]

Oh, and it dosnt click, before anyone asks, very soft (and silent) feel to it... so... 4 "steps" move you one section.

[Thunderbird]

So 1 click moves you one cell then, I take it?

Actually no 4 clicks move you one step, but thats true with digital pads too, if you tap one, you'll see there are 4 steps of animation before you move to the next segment.

 

I wouldn't buy a product which hasn't been designed to take into account different user preferences like configurable numbers of clicks per cell and variable knob size. And I prefer the adjustments to be power actuated, not manual. Manual adjustments are a sign of cheapness and give the product a cheap feel. Lack of adjustments are a sure sign of a poorly user-engineered product, which is likley to fall apart under normal use.

[Tyrant]

I cant decide if I should respond with a nice simple, classic, BALD! or the more mature "grow up".

[Thunderbird]

The use of the standard Atari Jaguar joypad gives the overall impression of someone who had an overstock of used joypads they needed to dispose of in a hurry.

 

A more engineered product would use a nicer enclosure or in the very least come in the much easier to hold "Procontroller" style package. The wooden rotaries made by JetJohn a few years back were a lot sturdier looking and more ergonomic by far.

 

From an aesthetic standpoint, a knob simply looks "wrong" coming out of a Standard Atari Joypad.

[+Sauron]

The use of the standard Atari Jaguar joypad gives the overall impression of someone who had an overstock of used joypads they needed to dispose of in a hurry.  

 

A more engineered product would use a nicer enclosure or in the very least come in the much easier to hold "Procontroller" style package.  The wooden rotaries made by JetJohn a few years back were a lot sturdier looking and more ergonomic by far.

 

From an aesthetic standpoint, a knob simply looks "wrong" coming out of a Standard Atari Joypad.

 

Where is the Scatalogic Rotary Controller? Due to your critique of Tyrant's rotaries, I would assume that you have by now made a much more professional product available to Jaguar fans around the world....

[Thunderbird]

For a product with a starting price of $60.00 on Ebay, I expect a well designed sturdy product that won't break under normal use that comes in a nicely designed protective full-color package- Not a bunch of old overstock spare parts hastily thrown together.

[Thunderbird]

Where is the Scatalogic Rotary Controller? Due to your critique of Tyrant's rotaries, I would assume that you have by now made a much more professional product available to Jaguar fans around the world....

 

I was waiting until after Tyrant released his networking A/V adapter first.

[+Sauron]

Well then here's another question. Have you actually tried Tyrant's Rotary controller? Perhaps judgement should be held until you do. I could just as easily look at the Scatbox and say the same things as you said about the rotary, with the only exception being the packaging. However, I would like to use one myself before passing final judgement on it.

[+davidcalgary29]

On perhaps a more positive note, I'd love to hear Tyrant's story of how he conceived the idea of creating a rotary controller in the first place...and the process he uses to assemble his items. I know that he's mentioned a few words here and there in other threads, but this would make an interesting article in itself. How about it?

[Thunderbird]

Well then here's another question. Have you actually tried Tyrant's Rotary controller? Perhaps judgement should be held until you do. I could just as easily look at the Scatbox and say the same things as you said about the rotary, with the only exception being the packaging. However, I would like to use one myself before passing final judgement on it.

 

I guess you missed the topic where Tyrant scraped together the most hilariously desperate list of faults with the Scatbox. We laughed so hard we had beer coming out our noses. We appreciated the zany criticisms so much that I decided that we really should return the favor.

 

I really should consider putting another Tyrant ranting quote in my sig. It seems to be the "cool" thing to do!

[+Sauron]

I guess you missed the topic where Tyrant scraped together the most hilariously desperate list of faults with the Scatbox. We laughed so hard we had beer coming out our noses. We appreciated the zany criticisms so much that I decided that we really should return the favor.

 

Ok, I think you've made your point now, so PLEASE give it a rest.

[lais]

On perhaps a more positive note, I'd love to hear Tyrant's story of how he conceived the idea of creating a rotary controller in the first place...and the process he uses to assemble his items.  I know that he's mentioned a few words here and there in other threads, but this would make an interesting article in itself. How about it?

 

Guess what... It's already being worked on. Keep your eyes on http://www.myatari.net next month...

[Thunderbird]

I guess you missed the topic where Tyrant scraped together the most hilariously desperate list of faults with the Scatbox. We laughed so hard we had beer coming out our noses. We appreciated the zany criticisms so much that I decided that we really should return the favor.

 

Ok, I think you've made your point now, so PLEASE give it a rest.

 

Not until I find just the perfect addition to my sig. There's so many totally off-the-wall goofy quotes to choose from I can't decide!

[LinkoVitch]

On perhaps a more positive note, I'd love to hear Tyrant's story of how he conceived the idea of creating a rotary controller in the first place...and the process he uses to assemble his items.  I know that he's mentioned a few words here and there in other threads, but this would make an interesting article in itself. How about it?

 

Guess what... It's already being worked on. Keep your eyes on http://www.myatari.net next month...

 

Do you have any ideas of a date when the issue will be released?

[lais]

On perhaps a more positive note, I'd love to hear Tyrant's story of how he conceived the idea of creating a rotary controller in the first place...and the process he uses to assemble his items.  I know that he's mentioned a few words here and there in other threads, but this would make an interesting article in itself. How about it?

 

Guess what... It's already being worked on. Keep your eyes on http://www.myatari.net next month...

 

Do you have any ideas of a date when the issue will be released?

 

Ideally on the first day of the month and this is what we aim for, but it looks like being delayed for a few days. The sooner I stop chatting here the better, as I have yet to produce one more article for this month's issue that is relevant to the cover feature, and has been on the back of my mind for ages so I want to get it over and done with. Then I have to start(!) my JagFest report, I anticipate it being our biggest report ever, but you'll just have to wait and see what else is going to be in it. Yes, I also remember that I have to get some information from yourself about your activities of the weekend...

[Tyrant]

Last day on this one folks, good luck.

 

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