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Hey guys! Hoping someone here can assist me.

 

I have owned an LTO Flash for about a year now, and have it plugged into my PC about 4 or 5 times.  I recently bought new games, and was ready to try them out on my actual hardware. However, it seems the user interface refuses to recognise my LTO Flash cart. It is the same computer so I am confused.  I have tried different USB ports, and even bought a new micro USB cord, all to no avail.  "Find devices" insists that nothing can be found.  The Windows 8 happy "ding" noise upon plugging the cart in seems to suggest something is happening, but whatever it is, it's not being recognised by the user interace.

 

Suggestions? I have spent far too much time on this already unplugging, replugging, resetting, etc.

 

Also: if there is a more appropriate place for this, then accept my apologies.  Not sure where this should go!

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Have you checked Device Manager to see if your cart shows up as a COM (serial) port?

 

It sounds like you’ve tried different USB cables but it can’t hurt to make sure the cable works for data transfer. Some cables only support charging. Have you tested the cable to be sure it supports data transfer like copying pictures from a phone?

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Under "Ports (COM and LPT)" I have "USB Serial Port." Would this be it?

 

The current cord I was using was described as a "sync cable"; the cable I used the prior four times also was and, again, worked fine up until now.  I was told that I could try to install drivers, but the file linked on the LTO Flash Site doesn't seem to have any executables in it, so I have no idea how to do this.

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The link takes you to this page:

https://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

 

That page has numerous links to different drivers. Depending on if you're running 32-bit or 64-bit windows, there are different things you would download. There are various links there.

 

Regarding the DeviceManager, I don't have access to Windows 8 right now, but here's a sample screen grab similar to what you might see -- you'll need to be sure you see a 'COM' in the name. I *think* it still looks that way in Windows 8.  If it doesn't have a 'COMxxx' name then there's something else going on.

 

Before we get too far in the weeds though ... Do you have your cart in the console at the same time?  If so, you need to be sure the console is powered off when you want to add files.

 

 

 

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The COM part is not there. And nope, the cart is sitting next to my computer, quite a bit a distance from the console.

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Hmm.... Not sure if that's normal in Windows 8...

 

If you right click on that USB Serial Port and look at Properties, do you see things like this?  The first image is really basic. The 'Details' part is the trickier one. You'll need to poke around a bit to see that part.

 

I'm on the road and can't access a Windows 8 setup to see if things are different, but if memory serves, the old fashioned Device Manager hasn't changed much even in Windows 10.  If you have another program that lets you examine the serial ports on your system, it would be good to know if it can "see" the port.

 

Just a wild question, but you don't have other programs running that might be using serial ports, do you?

 

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If you have a separate program to independently check out your COM port, we can see if basic device communication works.  I've used RealTerm ( https://realterm.sourceforge.io/ ) to do this kind of thing in the past.

 

Below is a screen shot using RealTerm. In this case on the test machine the cart shows up as COM5. You have to configure the baud rate to 2000000, 8, N, 1, with hardware RTS/CTS control.  Whenever the cart is connected and not busy, it broadcasts a 'beacon' as you see in the image below.

 

Be sure not to have any programs running that may want to use the serial port if you run a test like this.

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Fascinating. Now that you bring it up, I had recently reinstalled Skype; I wonder if this uses a COM port? I sadly don't know enough about the software to make a judgement. Everything in the device driver menu (except it listing a COM port) seems to match up perfectly.

 

I used the RealTerm program, set it to what you described, and got no kind of beacon whatsoever on the settings you described. I assume this beacon should just pop up upon the  cart being plugged in?

 

I'm now wondering if I should try to uninstall the driver and reinstall everything? Oy, this is frustrating.

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In the RealTerm software, about the only thing I didn't circle :P was the 'Port' setting.... I.e. are there ports listed? If you then disconnect the cart (and restart RealTerm just to be sure), does that list of ports change?

 

Also, after making the changes, you need to click the 'Change' button. I usually toggle the 'Open' button as well.

 

About once a second, that 'LOCUTUS' beacon is sent.  If the settings aren't right, then at best you might see 'LF' show up periodically. At worst you might not see anything.

 

An even simpler test (should have thought of this first) is to open 'cmd.exe' (command prompt) and use the 'mode' command.

 

WITHOUT the cart connected when you type 'mode' and then <enter> you see:

Status for device CON:
----------------------
    Lines:          300
    Columns:        80
    Keyboard rate:  31
    Keyboard delay: 1
    Code page:      437

WITH the cart connected the same command produces:

Status for device COM5:
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    Baud:            1200
    Parity:          None
    Data Bits:       7
    Stop Bits:       1
    Timeout:         OFF
    XON/XOFF:        OFF
    CTS handshaking: OFF
    DSR handshaking: OFF
    DSR sensitivity: OFF
    DTR circuit:     ON
    RTS circuit:     ON


Status for device CON:
----------------------
    Lines:          300
    Columns:        80
    Keyboard rate:  31
    Keyboard delay: 1
    Code page:      437

The exact settings don't really matter -- we're just interested in seeing that it's present as a COM port.

 

 

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As to software installation, the GUI software does not install any drivers, so it would not impact the ability of the machine to detect the COM port. Installing the FTDI driver might make a difference. Maybe an OS update changed something. 

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Using mode I got:

 

Status for device COM3:

Baud: 57600

Parity: None

Data Bits: 8

Stop Bits: 1

Timout: OFF

XON/XOFF: OFF

CTS handshaking: OFF

DSR handshaking: OFF

DSR sensitivity: OFF

DTR circuit: ON

RTS circuit: ON

 

Status for device CON:

Lines: 300

Columbs: 80

Keyboard rate: 31

Keyboard delay: 1

Code page: 437

 

Toggling OPEN did in face send the LOCUTUS beacon. Excitedly, I ran to the GUI, and ... no LTO Flash! devices were found.

 

I am so so confused.

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Okay, update: after FINALLY finding an executable for Windows 64-bit systems (the current one has none!) I uninstalled and then reinstalled all the drivers and -- wouldn't you know it ! -- there is my device, on COM3.

 

Thank you for the help!

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W00t! Wonder if a win8.x update hosed something. The virtual machines I use when testing have so many variables I tend to lose track of when driver install is needed or not. 

 

Glad you stuck with it and got it working. 

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