_The Doctor__ Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) nah, not even close looks like mario and luigi hats... interesting fact... one of the only Robin Williams movies that was a flop btw. it was criticized for nearly all aspects including wardrobe.. a musical? what were they thinking. but you just need to look at the arcade game itself to know what hat they had in mind https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145628/ complete with the history of how the game came to be... look at all the artwork and then the game... cool stuff.. check out a handful of mame vids etc as well... Edited August 24, 2019 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Nintendo's Olive doesn't translate well, I don't like her head from the side, and she doesn't look like she is sending kisses.. then I realized we don't even have 3 frames available so I improvised ! smaller head -> done thin like a pool cue ? -> check sending kisses ? -> Popeye catch 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Popeye's alternate animation.. just a study for now, wish I could fit in the head and the pipe.. maybe I'll try injecting it in the nes version ! edit: or maybe I can Edited August 24, 2019 by TIX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 ..kinda grows on me 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 a better Olive 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 Hey, does any of you still have Darryl's/Playsoft's version 9 of their hacked binary ?? (the one with the all white Popeye's punch frame), I can't seem to find it anywhere.. Please share, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 Instead of working on the game, I got sidetracked and try to animate various scenes of Popeye in 8 bits.. In the process interesting things (as the following) pop up, I really love this.. I will definitely use it in the hack, ..but only if I find the missing beta version of the hack.. I have already contact Darryl and Playsoft and waiting for news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARIO130XE Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Popeye, my all time fav arcade game ever. After pimping the engine to make it possible to punch the bottles and so on I'm pleased to see someone is pimping the sprites to look more original. I can't await the final version and want to say: BIG BIG THANKS!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Sorry, didn't download v9 of Darryl's hack back in 2015. Not sure why he removed the attachment from his post. Hopefully he still has a copy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheNameOfTheGame said: Sorry, didn't download v9 of Darryl's hack back in 2015. Not sure why he removed the attachment from his post. Hopefully he still has a copy. Found it Edited August 26, 2019 by TIX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, TIX said: Found it Where did you find it? It took me forever to find it. I really liked this punch. People didn't like it, because Popeye was all white (like the ColecoVision version). It is based off of the arcade punch frame. I am disappointed, because the rest of the Popeye frames are not the final ones, so Popeye's head isn't as accurate as the final v.12. I am also bummed, because I do not think a 5200 version was ever compiled. I would like to put this on my AtariMax to play on the TV! Enjoy. Popeye(MonoPunch).xex 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 5:47 PM, TIX said: ..kinda grows on me I am kind of an arcade purist, but I really see Popeye's walk in this. It's a nice concept. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 10:08 AM, TIX said: Nintendo's Olive doesn't translate well, I don't like her head from the side, and she doesn't look like she is sending kisses.. then I realized we don't even have 3 frames available so I improvised ! smaller head -> done thin like a pool cue ? -> check sending kisses ? -> Popeye catch I like the use of black for the graphics. I tried to use that too, but it caused issues. It's not really black. It's transparent. The staircase and ladder colors show through, and it distorted my characters. I would guess you might run into the same issue, but hard to say until you try them in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, darryl1970 said: Where did you find it? It took me forever to find it. Playsoft came to the rescue ! 3 hours ago, darryl1970 said: I am kind of an arcade purist, but I really see Popeye's walk in this. It's a nice concept. Thanks man ! Well I play around with at least 3 different walks at the moment and I must decide.. I'm thinking of releasing an "arcade" version, and then a custom animated one ! that punch is too good to left behind Then maybe not, we'll see.. Edited August 26, 2019 by TIX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, darryl1970 said: I like the use of black for the graphics. I tried to use that too, but it caused issues. It's not really black. It's transparent. The staircase and ladder colors show through, and it distorted my characters. I would guess you might run into the same issue, but hard to say until you try them in the game. Yes I have thought of that.. at least it's an easy fix if it goes south ! Since you are here I wonder if you can point me in the right direction: I can't seem to locate Wimpy, Swee'pea, the witch and her vulture.. are they playfield or something ? What about the bottles ? are they missiles ?? Thanks in advance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, TIX said: I can't seem to locate Wimpy, Swee'pea, the witch and her vulture.. are they playfield or something ? What about the bottles ? are they missiles ?? Thanks in advance ! Playsoft got back to me.. they are all playfield ..a bit complicated for me, but I'll give it a shot ! I mainly want to edit Swee'pea to be smaller (in analogy with the rest of the crew) and the bottles to fly sideways, I'm pretty happy with the rest of them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, TIX said: Playsoft got back to me.. they are all playfield ..a bit complicated for me, but I'll give it a shot ! I mainly want to edit Swee'pea to be smaller (in analogy with the rest of the crew) and the bottles to fly sideways, I'm pretty happy with the rest of them ! The bottles would look good sideways, if there was enough room. I think they may only be 4x8 (double wide pixels, due to multi-color mode). It really limits what can be done with them. In addition to that, with a lot of background area, they would also look odd when floating over the staircases. There are a lot of limitations that we discovered as projects progressed. It gives me a newfound respect for those who didn't have the awesome tools we have today. Add that to long compile times, deadlines, memory restrictions, etc., and it really raises my appreciation. I hacked the NES Popeye too. I was hoping to make it more arcade-like. I figured the extra resolution and extra colors would make it easy to upgrade it to a more arcade-like look. When I got in, I realized the programmers had positioned certain sprites to keep too many sprites from being rendered on the same horizontal line. Also, the sprites were short. It limited what I was able to do. PopeyeArcade(DEG) 3.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, darryl1970 said: There are a lot of limitations that we discovered as projects progressed. It gives me a newfound respect for those who didn't have the awesome tools we have today. Add that to long compile times, deadlines, memory restrictions, etc., and it really raises my appreciation. Yeah I know playfield editing is hard work.. I messed with it heavily, when I hacked Mr. Do to Dig Dug.. all the creatures were playfield, literally hundreds of frames.... it was brutal P.S. excellent work on the Nes version of Popeye ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) At last some progress, size analogy turned up just right ! I'm starting to squeeze everything in, with the help of a great Playsoft utility, I can edit the sprites on the fly, so it won't be long.. Also now we have sideways flying bottles ! Problems: Unfortunately the animation suffers from the lightning speed of the walk cycle.. a common problem of games at the time I had to give up of Popeyes Sailing cap.. it looked taller in game. for some strange reason Brutus floats 1 pixel up from the floor, problem of the original. I'm working on it Edited August 28, 2019 by TIX 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Daniel Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 53 minutes ago, TIX said: At last some progress, size analogy turned up just right ! I'm starting to squeeze everything in, with the help of a great Playsoft utility, I can edit the sprites on the fly, so it won't be long.. Also now we have sideways flying bottles ! Problems: Unfortunately the animation suffers from the lightning speed of the walk cycle.. a common problem of games at the time I had to give up of Popeyes Sailing cap.. it looked taller in game. for some strange reason Brutus floats 1 pixel up from the floor, problem of the original. I'm working on it Great work. This game is a childhood favourite of many, so these enhancements are warmly received. Looking forward to seeing the enhanced bottles. What is the latest version available to us, the eager and appreciative public? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) new (test) punch frame with new bottle, I can also fit in a skull.. but this might be confusing ?!? no hacked binary available yet, but soon. or or Edited August 29, 2019 by TIX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Daniel Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, TIX said: new (test) punch frame with new bottle, I can also fit in a skull.. but this might be confusing ?!? no hacked binary available yet, but soon. or or First image is confusing, at least to me. Second one looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) Where are you getting the name Brutus from?!? I've known the character as BLUTO all my life: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye Edited August 29, 2019 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Daniel Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gunstar said: Where are you getting the name Brutus from?!? I've known the character as BLUTO all my life: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye From: https://popeye.fandom.com/wiki/Brutus "Various Popeye media such as video games and memorabilia identify their villain as Brutus." Edited August 29, 2019 by Paul Daniel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) Bluto is the strong muscular character, Brutus is the fat character. The alternate character with a different name and dimensions were made for a short time over some improbable copyright worries. When movies and and later efforts were made they used whichever name they felt like. If you want to be accurate, they are suppose to be two different characters. I always wanted both of them in the same flick or comic and name the thing 'Double Trouble for Popeye!' perhaps there's a game in that? Edited August 29, 2019 by _The Doctor__ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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