Greg2600 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Was flipping through roms on my Harmony, when it hit me, Pole Position by Atari is a decent port, but it's lack in so many ways. Graphics, and of course, there's no engine sound! To name a few. With so much work being done to spruce up other titles and/or port new ones from arcade, why not PP? For that matter, why not Pole Position II? You'd think Champ Games or similar programmers would already he on to that? It was hands down the most popular sit down arcade racer for years, prior to Cruis'n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 No engine sound? Are You sure about that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstick Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Greg2600 said: It was hands down the most popular sit down arcade racer for years, prior to Cruis'n. I imagine Out Run should probably be inserted in there somewhere 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 A non-issue when you have RetroPie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Clearly we need a Daytona USA port as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I disagree. I actually loved 2600 Pole Position. I wouldn’t change a thing. The only thing I “added” (and still add to this day!) is every time I play I always say: “Prepare to Qualify” out loud when the opening chime music ends. It’s a habit. I can’t help myself. 6 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Personally I think the 7800 version needs a touch up to fix the stupid collision detection and make Course 4 playable for normal humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 20 hours ago, ColecoJoe said: No engine sound? Are You sure about that? Nope, only tires skidding. All I'm saying is I'd love to see a racing game programmed with "today's tools." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Greg2600 said: Nope, only tires skidding. All I'm saying is I'd love to see a racing game programmed with "today's tools." Sounds like an engine to me? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 That's definitely an engine sound. I'd just like to see a hack of 2600 Pole Position to include the 3 other PPII tracks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I once did a hack (Checkered Flag) for Atari(?) where I also change the track. I can't remember though how much effort that was. The ROM was never released, but I suppose I have it somewhere on my HDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Maybe the OP's console has a faulty TIA or issue with AUD0/AUD1 signals and how or if they are being mixed on the mainboard. Or perhaps a faulty stereo mod.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 No no, faulty user! Had a stereo wire slightly unplugged, was missing R channel. Still would love to see a graphical upgrade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I thought the graphics were great, and it controlls better than later versions. Would love a hack or new game of pole position 2 though. Best arcade for like a decade imo and the 2600 should have one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Well now, a 2600 Pole Position 2 would have been cool indeed. Implementing the other 3 tracks is really the only major thing it would have needed. The graphics & sounds of 2600 Pole Position were great. And the play control was perfect. The only thing that looked “meh” were the other cars on the track. But everything else looked & sounded excellent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Come on, I want arcade perfect graphics! Champ Games can do it, ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impaler_26 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 10:27 PM, Thomas Jentzsch said: I once did a hack (Checkered Flag) for Atari(?) where I also change the track. I can't remember though how much effort that was. The ROM was never released, but I suppose I have it somewhere on my HDs. Is this the hack you're talking about? Looks like the ROM was released after all... Checkered Flag (Pole Position Hack) (2005) (Thomas Jentzsch).bin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) the 2 button version is all you need- if they can fix the graphics be my guest- but theyve fixed the game control and thats more than enough for me Edited August 24, 2019 by chewy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Impaler_26 said: Is this the hack you're talking about? Looks like the ROM was released after all... Checkered Flag (Pole Position Hack) (2005) (Thomas Jentzsch).bin 8 kB · 4 downloads Yup, that's it. I forgot that I had posted it once. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyK Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The only graphical improvement to PP I'd like to see is the shapes of the oncoming cars. Pretty sure it isn't just a case of doing a graphic hack as the limits of the display kernel probably dictate what detail you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Exactly. Nothing else needs to be touched. The detail of the colors & graphics used for the main car are excellent. Don’t touch a thing. The race track, the background, the music & sound effects, etc. are also all excellent as well. And play control is absolutely perfect. The game was very well made. The only thing that ever looked bad in this game was the boring single color yellow blocky 1977 street racer graphics used for the opponents cars that you pass. That’s it. Nothing else ever bothered me about this game. There are a few games that “we needed a better version of” over the years, like PacMan & Donkey Kong, but Pole Position was never among them. I couldn’t disagree more with anyone “messing with it”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SQL Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Pole position is awesome but Enduro is even better ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) We do not need a better PolePosition. It's a classic the way it is. It was pretty good back in the day, and it should remain that way. Too many people are beginning to demand remakes of games on that ARM-enhanced platform. Edited August 28, 2019 by Keatah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 10:27 PM, Thomas Jentzsch said: I once did a hack (Checkered Flag) for Atari(?) where I also change the track. I can't remember though how much effort that was. Interesting. Was it intended to be one of the built-in games in the Flashback II console? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Mr SQL said: Pole position is awesome but Enduro is even better ? Totally disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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