Dinadan67 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, foft said: I'm thinking about these 6 spare pins... Perhaps PS2 keyboard, USB keyboard, digital audio out? Any other ideas? I think an internal USB-Port for wireless keyboard/mouse-dongle would be cool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, foft said: I'm thinking about these 6 spare pins... Perhaps PS2 keyboard, USB keyboard, digital audio out? Any other ideas? Maybe providing the method to scan original Atari keyboard maxtrix KR1 and KR2 lines manually would be interesting feature? For example when SKCTL=%xxxxxx01 reading POTGO ($D20B) would return KR1 and KR2 states every scanline. This way we have got full keyboard scan after 64 scanlines. You can of course cache KR1 and KR2 states internally on normal keyboard scanning routine (when SKCTL.1 is active) and return cached values on subsequent read of KBCODE ($D209) or POTGO (let's name it RAWKEY). You need only 8*9 bits of internal cache for this purpose (KR1 is taken every scanline, KR2 every 8th scanline). I can imagine following routine of full keyboard scan: lda #%00000001 sta SKCTL lda RAWKEY ;first KR1 states sta buffer lda RAWKEY sta buffer+1 ... lda RAWKEY ;last KR1 states sta buffer+7 lda RAWKEY ;all KR2 states sta buffer+8 lda #%00000011 sta SKCTL It doesn't reset POKEY timers neither LFSRs so normal POKEY operation wouldn't be distorted. Edited December 17, 2020 by mono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hello foft 12 hours ago, foft said: Perhaps ... digital audio out? As in SPDIF? That would be nice. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
777ismyname Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 If any of these are still available @Duddie and someone in the United States is ordering, please post here or send a DM. I'd love to get one, but I know shipping from Poland to the U.S. was (still is?) very expensive. To save $$$, I'd like to pool an order with other American buyer(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duddie Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 It is not that expensive. 10 usd for pokeymax... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 The latest core (not yet provided to @Duddie) now has the first cut of 6581 distortion support. http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_flacs/sid6581test2_analogue_jeff.flac http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_flacs/sid8580test2_analogue_jeff.flac http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_flacs/sid6581test2_filter_4-mat.flac http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_flacs/sid8580test2_filter_4-mat.flac http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_flacs/sid6581test2_mechanicus.flac http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_flacs/sid8580test2_mechanicus.flac I'm looking for feedback. Any sid experts here? The 6581 is based on the 6581R4AR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mi1ez Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Am I took late to get a couple of these? (USD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 How much would it cost to send 2 to Pittsburgh, PA, USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
777ismyname Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 12/19/2020 at 12:05 AM, Duddie said: It is not that expensive. 10 usd for pokeymax... $10? I will take at least five. Send me a DM with info to send payment to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duddie Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 hours ago, 777ismyname said: $10? I will take at least five. Send me a DM with info to send payment to. $10 for just shipping, not PokeyMAX.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duddie Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Kyle22 said: How much would it cost to send 2 to Pittsburgh, PA, USA? $10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duddie Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 7:50 AM, Mi1ez said: Am I took late to get a couple of these? (USD) Of course not. Please let me know via PM which versions do you need, I will make the best price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 Firmware version 1.21 is released. The 'core.bin' files to update are online for the first time: http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_files/1.21_202010110/v2/ This is only possible on the larger devices which have the 10M04 or 10M08. The tool to update them is here, intended to be used in tandem with the appropriate core.bin file on D4. http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_files/pokeycfg_0_9.xex 1.21 changes: SID/PSG: 1MHz and 2MHz clock are generated using the C64 method. - PAL: 5/9 PHI2 - NTSC: 4/7 PHI2 (2MHz is 10/9 and 8/7) Previously the SID/PSG clock varied up to 0-10% by device since its using the internal oscillator (now the internal oscillator only leads to a jitter change, since it counts the phi2 length) Config tool (0.9): Add PAL/NTSC selection for these clock dividers 1.20 changes: SID: Wave and envelope timing verified/corrected vs 6581 - 0 when all disabled, not 1 - noise init fix - noise enable delay 2 cycles - pulse delay fix (asymmetric) - envelope stall bug fixed Fixed read of osc c register Sample support (dc offset in 6581 amplitude modulation, dc offset in 8580 ext in if digifix enabled) Filter - 6581 f distortion - Corrected 6581 and 8580 phase differences - Attenuate band pass (iirc) on 6581 Common GTIA mixer fix Config tool Added sid digifix support (select 6581,8580 or 8580Digi) 1.19 changes: Platforms PokeyMax v1 backport Common Stereo auto version code corrected to SA Remove some whistling (different dac frequencies) Keyboard scan Works with TKII well enough, though will be further improved in future TKII firmware Sample Tested/fixes: Clipping, correct data nibble, irq SID Fixed corrupted Q values Config tool Much improved display refresh time No need to press control for arrow keys Fixed apply settings for 2nd flash location 1.18 changes: SID filter q in flash (6581 or 8580) mixed waveforms in flash (6581 or 8580) Pokey Force break anded in (turbo tape fix) Volume to flash (In large FPGAs) Keyboard scan Inversion corrected Scan uses interrupts Scan run off pokey timer I2C clock run at 1.5MHz (over spec but stable until 3.5MHz) TKii/AKI should work PSG volume to flash Config Can disable devices by a register Flash control fairness fix 1.17 changes: Added sample player - Paula style with ADPCM (alpha test) PSG volume linear or log SID filter f in flash (6581 or 8580) Pokey non-linear curve improved 1.16 changes: i) 2nd order sigma delta dac excludes unstable top and bottom of range ii) config tool update reads from the registers for the initial state iii) right channel detection based on xor rather than 5 bits (covox 2 channel fix) 1.15 changes: * Added flash support to M04 cores * Added M04 support to flash program * Flash program renamed to pokeycfg.xex 1.14 changes: * Registers initialized from flash * Flash access from the core * Register to disable automatic mono detection * Fix quad pokey mixer overflow bug * Serial input 5 cycle clock delay (brings sio timing closer to pokey) 1.13 changes: * Doubled clock rate of second order sigma delta * Changed version type of some cores: xel stereo(pokey) => M02SX psg quad(pokey) covox => M08QP -> wire up like quad pokey with covox (A4,A5,A7) sid quad(pokey) => M08QS -> wire up with A4,A5 and A6 1.12 changes: * Second order sigma delta * Improved pokey non-linear volume curve * Channel playing detection (if R not playing, it plays L) * xel stereo build (disables CS1) * New SID core developer build * New PSG core developer build 1.11 changes: Implemented IRQ enable reg. 1.10 changes: i) covox left channel: channel 1 + channel 4 ii) covox right channel: channel 2 + channel 3 iii) covox volume halved iv) Added quad with covox memory map. v) Added 4 channel covox. ... lots of early/pre-release changes... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Updated flasher link: http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_files/pokeycfg_0_9b.xex If anyone downloaded the earlier 0.9 - please DO NOT USE IT Edited January 11, 2021 by foft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, foft said: Updated flasher link: http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_files/pokeycfg_0_9b.xex If anyone downloaded the earlier 0.9 - please DO NOT USE IT Hi foft, the link doesn´t work... Cheers, andY Edited January 11, 2021 by andymanone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 Fixed the link, though hold off a bit please... Want to check something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 I'm taking the cores down for now, I need to do some more investigation. If you downloaded please DO NOT FLASH! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) OK, lets try that again. Flasher: http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_files/pokeycfg_1_0.xex Cores: http://www.64kib.com/pokeymax_files/1.22_20210113/ Important advice 1: Recovering from a failed flash will require a USB blaster (+ making a small adapter board), or sending back to Retronics. Important advice 2: If flashing does not work, do not power off the computer off. Correct the issue and try again. Changes: 1.22 changes: Environment: Upgraded to Quartus 20.1.1 IP: Disabled wrapping burst mode on 10M08 flash access - it saves space but is non-functional! Issue raised with Intel. Config tool (1.0): Add some safety checks to the flashing tool - Allow halting and restarting the process (press break) - Check stdio error codes properly! Skip 0xff values (faster) 'Secret key' (x!) to allow displaying some flash contents! Edited January 13, 2021 by foft 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mi1ez Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 12/17/2020 at 6:17 PM, Mathy said: Hello foft As in SPDIF? That would be nice. Sincerely Mathy Personally, I'd LOVE a way to get Sophia DVI to include a PokeyMAX digital signal straight into an HDMI port right on the system with both video and audio and reduce the delay and power required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Hello mi1ez 14 hours ago, Mi1ez said: Personally, I'd LOVE a way to get Sophia DVI to include a PokeyMAX digital signal straight into an HDMI port right on the system with both video and audio and reduce the delay and power required. And wouldn't it be nice if we could buy an off the shelf DVI2HDMI convertor that would fit inside the Atari. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 I asked on the Sophia 2 and the current design can't output audio if I provide it. I guess I could make pokeymax 3 have 2 input pins for col/lum and output HDMI, though that feels like I'm stepping on the toes of Sophia's territory a bit! I have designed/included most of the required logic already for the Eclaire. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 i'm sure foft doesn't need this explained, but some of you might need that for HDMI there are no separate audio pins - digital or analog, instead, audio data is embeded into tmds stream during horizontal and vertical synchronisation periods, and depeding on the logic inside tv it might be processed out of sync with video - thus most tv sets have some options to set audio to video delay/latency if you can provide standard i2s output vbxe3 will use it i'm using 50mil 4 pin header on simplestereo4 for this purpose 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, candle said: vbxe3 will use it Do tell more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 hours ago, candle said: i'm sure foft doesn't need this explained, but some of you might need that for HDMI there are no separate audio pins - digital or analog, instead, audio data is embeded into tmds stream during horizontal and vertical synchronisation periods, and depeding on the logic inside tv it might be processed out of sync with video - thus most tv sets have some options to set audio to video delay/latency if you can provide standard i2s output vbxe3 will use it i'm using 50mil 4 pin header on simplestereo4 for this purpose and that lag is what makes such terrible game play on sets that require those adjustments, I had to trash a couple tv's for those reasons... blech nothing helped! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 hours ago, candle said: if you can provide standard i2s output vbxe3 will use it i'm using 50mil 4 pin header on simplestereo4 for this purpose Maybe, it’s 4 pins! Spdif is 1 pin:) Any movement on sharing the vbxe hdl with me for the EclaireXL? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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