Marsupilami Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Hi, I found this picture, I wonder if it exists somewhere for the 800 xl ? ? Thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 It's in the US Patent office database somewhere, good luck finding it though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) The USPTO database is actually searchable. Here's the design patent for the 800 ("Colleen"). https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=D0265315&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO2%26Sect2%3DHITOFF%26p%3D2%26u%3D%252Fnetahtml%252FPTO%252Fsearch-bool.html%26r%3D85%26f%3DG%26l%3D50%26co1%3DAND%26d%3DPTXT%26s1%3DAtari.ASNM.%26OS%3DAN%2FAtari%26RS%3DAN%2FAtari&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page And the 400: https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=D0262702&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO2%26Sect2%3DHITOFF%26p%3D2%26u%3D%252Fnetahtml%252FPTO%252Fsearch-bool.html%26r%3D92%26f%3DG%26l%3D50%26co1%3DAND%26d%3DPTXT%26s1%3DAtari.ASNM.%26OS%3DAN%2FAtari%26RS%3DAN%2FAtari&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page (Hope these links work - government websites are tricky!) Edited September 10, 2019 by DrVenkman 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Interestingly, I could NOT locate a similar design patent for the XL line, though I did find Regan Cheng's basic design for the 4-port 5200. I don't know why Atari wouldn't have filed a design patent for the XL line, except that perhaps the 1200XL's design was changing so much as it evolved that it just never got an application finalized and completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 14 hours ago, DrVenkman said: Interestingly, I could NOT locate a similar design patent for the XL line, though I did find Regan Cheng's basic design for the 4-port 5200. I don't know why Atari wouldn't have filed a design patent for the XL line, except that perhaps the 1200XL's design was changing so much as it evolved that it just never got an application finalized and completed. That's why I said good luck finding it LOL... I spent about an hour searching permutations for different Atari Patents. The search isn't very friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, orpheuswaking said: That's why I said good luck finding it LOL... I spent about an hour searching permutations for different Atari Patents. The search isn't very friendly. Well I’ve done patent searches before so the clunky search interface isn’t the problem. The problem is, an analogous design patent for the XL cases just doesn’t seem to exist, or if it does it was assigned to a different company than Atari. Not inconceivable but highly unlikely. BTW, I did find the design patents for the 810 disk drive and 820 printer, the one for the 5200 analog joystick. But nothing for the XL line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) I found a good list of Atari's patents here : https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/atpats.htm 400/800 + peripherals: https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4451900.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4296476.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd265315.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd262702.pdf Tons of joysticks : CX40 : https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4319099.pdf and https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4349708.pdf and https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd255565.pdf and https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd254544.pdf . Do we have an artist to do a great poster with all that stuff ? Others: https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat5286024.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4469330.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4459578.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd268689.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd271312.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd271313.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4275611.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4107642.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4124787.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd250606.pdf (kind of) https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd247746.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4091234.pdf Cartridges : https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd318273.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd272342.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd260881.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/pat4149027.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd252753.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd339577.pdf Consoles : https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd251143.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd268689.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd271891.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd251452.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd252926.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd250607.pdf https://www.jmargolin.com/patents/ataripats/patd250608.pdf And tons of arcade cabinets. But still nothing about the XL line... Edited September 11, 2019 by Marsupilami 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Just be aware that the links you posted may well refer to actual patents, but they are hosted on a private person’s server. The actual, official and legally controlling patents are hosted on the website of the US Patent and Trademark Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: Just be aware that the links you posted may well refer to actual patents, but they are hosted on a private person’s server. The actual, official and legally controlling patents are hosted on the website of the US Patent and Trademark Office. Absolutely...but as said before, the search engine is...well...not really user friendly Edited September 11, 2019 by Marsupilami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I always forget about Jed's site. I had a lot of fun reading through the Atari VAX emails. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 Ok it's not user friendly until you find this search tool : http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html I tried to use "atari" as "assignee name" AND all names from http://www.atarimania.com/faq-atari-400-800-xl-xe-who-designed-the-atari-8-bit-computers_17.html in all other fields. I guess it's more or less what Jed did, that's why i hadn't more results. Too bad. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 It appears the XL/XE line are just not in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 22 hours ago, DrVenkman said: The USPTO database is actually searchable. Here's the design patent for the 800 ("Colleen"). And the 400: (Hope these links work - government websites are tricky!) They worked, well done. I downloaded them as PDF and renamed them for easy access. Attached. Atari 400 patent.pdfAtari 800 patent.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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