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#FujiNet - a WIP SIO Network Adapter for the Atari 8-bit

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On 10/20/2021 at 10:03 AM, Mr Robot said:

I'd love for there to still be BBS's with the same small group of like minded people sharing info and helping each other but I find I don't have much in common with the people leaving messages on the BBS's I've visited recently, it's hard to contribute something new and nothing you find there is exclusive; I've usually read it all in multiple places already.

 

 

Huh. That "same small group of like minded people sharing info" is exactly why BBS'ing continues to be a huge draw for me.

 

I've actually posted messages to BBS's and got faster/more accurate replies than I did from some forums...       :)

 

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It's almost like different people have different experiences when doing the same thing!

 

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Could that be a subset (sub-clause?) of the definition of "insanity"?

 

You know, doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results?

 

  :)

 

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15 hours ago, DarkLord said:

 

Truth!  :D

 

Sure. Who else would give away hours/years of coding, creativity, active participation, work product, and collaboration with others as a free service? Where the user is not the product? And the criticisms which comes with it..

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6 hours ago, Amis said:

Sure. Who else would give away hours/years of coding, creativity, active participation, work product, and collaboration with others as a free service? Where the user is not the product? And the criticisms which come with it..

 

I just can't imagine...  :)

 

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9 hours ago, Amis said:

Sure. Who else would give away hours/years of coding, creativity, active participation, work product, and collaboration with others as a free service? Where the user is not the product? And the criticisms which come with it..

 

Yes, it's a thankless job.  But running a BBS is still a labor of love. :)

 

-JP
 

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31 minutes ago, Kyle22 said:

@tschak909 What WAITCALL.CMD did you use w/ Pro BBS? I have tried many. Please send it to me.

Thanks.

 

The standard one that comes with both 2.0 and 5.0. The problem with waitcall I suspect, is that it is improperly opening and closing concurrent mode. This works okay with PBI based storage solutions, but storage over SIO fails to work correctly because of incorrectly closing concurrent mode before attempting any serial I/O.

 

-Thom

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The 'standard' waitcall should be 850 and smartmodem (hayes)... the answer appears to be you didn't do it, you used whatever someone else had set up and it worked for the video... so that leaves everyone else to guess which one happened to worked.

 

perhaps somebody will share their fujinet config, startup, batch and such stuff as well as what they used for the waitcall... saving others the frustration and duplication of effort.

 

of course none of that will matter if wifi devices don't forward port correctly or do not provide a true dmz when requested.

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13 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said:

The 'standard' waitcall should be 850 and smartmodem (hayes)... the answer appears to be you didn't do it, you used whatever someone else had set up and it worked for the video... so that leaves everyone else to guess which one happened to worked.

 

perhaps somebody will share their fujinet config, startup, batch and such stuff as well as what they used for the waitcall... saving others the frustration and duplication of effort.

 

of course none of that will matter if wifi devices don't forward port correctly or do not provide a true dmz when requested.

I'm starting to get a bit annoyed.

 

The version of waitcall that wound up on later versions of 5.0 does not properly handle concurrent mode. 

 

Of course, we never know, because none of the genetic defectives behind BBS Express! ever bothered to release source code because "Muh Moneys!"

And we get stupid problems like this.

 

-Thom

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You aren't listening to me. Both of you.

 

It's the standard waitcall. Are you running your storage from PBI (a la SIDE2/3)? Or are you trying to use storage over SIO (a la FujiNet?)

 

If you're doing the latter, it won't work for you. Nobody bothered to ever test it seems.

 

I'd love to just paste the copies of 2.0 and 5.0 that I have, but the certain thalidomide child in charge of BBS Express's copyrights would have an absolute fecal fit.

 

-Thom

 

waitcalls.zip

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It's 96.235.21.69 port 10001 if anyone wants to try it w/ the new waitcall. My router won't let me get it from this laptop for some reason.

 

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I saw your attempt. That's similar to what I was getting w/ the other WAITCALLs.

 

Thanks.

 

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it always looks like translation issues. both the fujinet and the terminal need to use raw mode... not telnet... is the fujinet raw? is syncterm making a raw connection?

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setting the interface type to MIO BB will make the sio port stop switching between concurrent/block mode... if that fixes it, there's an issue with 850 emulation.

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If you set interface type using the http://fujinet method, then my router won't let me do that upstairs. I *can* do it downstairs for some reason. I am just getting used to the eeros.

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Again, as I said before, there's an issue with the 850 mode in WAITCALL. Nobody ever runs their BBS Express Pro storage over SIO, so nobody ever caught it.

 

But, if we want to spend the next 6 months going back and forth before you guys figure that out, then, ok.

 

-Thom

 

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