José Pereira Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 1:26 PM, rensoup said: Now you see me... Now you don't! The fire pits on different frames once is yellow and other is pink. As is, I think, form the conversation that their're Missiles 5th Player mode/PF3 it would be better always same colour, right? And yellow the best... And the bottle, why is it flickering? Is it same using Missiles 5th then maybe a DLI to set other colour(s)? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, José Pereira said: And the bottle, why is it flickering? Is it same using Missiles 5th then maybe a DLI to set other colour(s)? ? According to VIGSHA (Videogame Safety and Health Authority) rules magic potions have to be dyed with a flickering color to warn users against inadvertent use. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 You had to go there José Can't you see its merely some clever shadowing timed with the flickering of the light 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cjherr Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I actually thought that's what it looked like. Other than the fact that it appears to be the wrong side of the bottle, I thought it was a nice effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) doesn't flicker very badly on my crt or lcd (almost unnoticed till now), but we are NTSC 60 hz…. and yes... it looks like you would see it like that with torch flicker and reflections in real life as well in his post... I would not worry about it in the least! Edited April 13, 2020 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Jacques said: Looking for a pause key in "our" demo, I checked BBC Master keyboard options: https://www.popuw.com/bbc.html Is there a plan to incorporate some of them in Atari version? If there's memory for it ?, I had to rip out a lot of the BBC key code because there were some many cheats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, José Pereira said: The fire pits on different frames once is yellow and other is pink. As is, I think, form the conversation that their're Missiles 5th Player mode/PF3 it would be better always same colour, right? And yellow the best... And the bottle, why is it flickering? Is it same using Missiles 5th then maybe a DLI to set other colour(s)? ? artifacts over artifacts caused by limitations ! First the gif is decimated (1 out of 3 frames at 50fps is saved), that's why the flickering is weird. flames are 2 missiles each but flickering every frame so I can have 4 flames on the same line. Plus I flicker their color between red/yellow because it makes them pop out more! potion is 4 missiles but since there's only one color, I just make the shadow part flicker to make it look darker. Yeah let's just pretend it's the torch causing the shadowing ? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) so mostly a GIF issue, which is why we didn't see it on real hardware.... lmfao. I sometimes think people should look at it themselves rather than follow GIF and video... as this happens time and time again... my other fave is, it doesn't work or look like... and then 3 pages later, it's because it's on an emulator, and with non Atari chip images.... lol Like I said, looks great on NTSC 60 and the potion flicker (hardly noticeable) looks like normal torch reflective flicker... it adds to the game, so I'd leave it be.. Edited April 13, 2020 by _The Doctor__ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, rensoup said: If there's memory for it ?, I had to rip out a lot of the BBC key code because there were some many cheats I see, but pause and at least level-skip would be nice to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Hello guys Every game that takes more than two minutes should have a PAUSE option. So you have time to pee or get something to drink or just to keep your partner happy. Or you've been playing for hours, are setting a new record and then dinner is ready... Sincerely Mathy Edited April 13, 2020 by Mathy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 @Mathy Absolutely. Plus level-skipper allows to come back back to the level you left-off, we're grown-ups and time is often an issue, so level-skipper (classic SHIFT+L?) would make for lack of level-codes in PoP. And for the people who don't like cheats: they are in original PoP and there's no need to use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Yep, pause would be nice. Though did have any of the originals have it? I remember playing it at work on the Mac ~ 1994 and having to pick the right potion at the end of some levels and using that as a way to take a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 PC version had a lot of it: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/562672-prince-of-persia-1989/cheats Amiga quite a few, too: http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/cheats.php?id=865 For me, the pause and level-skip would do, if memory is the limit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Mathy said: Every game that takes more than two minutes should have a PAUSE option. So you have time to pee or get something to drink or just to keep your partner happy. Or you've been playing for hours, are setting a new record and then dinner is ready... Well you could always use your favourite emu and pause anywhere you wish ? 7 hours ago, Jacques said: PC version had a lot of it: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/562672-prince-of-persia-1989/cheats Amiga quite a few, too: http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/cheats.php?id=865 For me, the pause and level-skip would do, if memory is the limit ? Sure it would be great to be able to include the 1KB of cheat code the BBC has but for pushing the A8's boundaries, I've had to spend a lot of time already just looking for memory yet it's perpetually low and I don't have any of the A8 specific cut scene code so let's wait and see what's left once everything is implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnurrikowski Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 How about a potion for saving points ;o) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 ..I had to it 6 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, rensoup said: Well you could always use your favourite emu and pause anywhere you wish ? I don't really use emulators when it comes to serious playing, no such menu on my 130XE, which is irreplacable? Anyway, I understand memory issue, fingers crossed! Edited April 14, 2020 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pusakat Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I'm either gonna have to buy me an Atari 130XE or get an U1MB so I can play this on a real machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 how about we just let the work continue let it get finished and then decide to add crap after it's all settled and such 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Jacques said: I don't really use emulators when it comes to serious playing, no such menu on my 130XE, which is irreplacable? Anyway, I understand memory issue, fingers crossed! What about a freezer? Could be used to pause anytime, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Hello rensoup 2 hours ago, rensoup said: Well you could always use your favourite emu and pause anywhere you wish ? Here she is, you tell her: She won't listen to me. Sincerely Mathy 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 try this version: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rensoup said: try this version: Just don't stand on your roof while talking to emu. (Google 'Rod Hull death' if needed!) Edited April 14, 2020 by snicklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Hello Rensoup 37 minutes ago, rensoup said: try this version: I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna stick my hand up somebody's butt to make 'em say or do whatever I'd like them to say or do. And I'm no Dr. Pol either. Sincerely Mathy PS and that's not my favorite emu either. Edited April 14, 2020 by Mathy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 13 hours ago, snicklin said: Just don't stand on your roof while talking to emu. (Google 'Rod Hull death' if needed!) ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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