Unicorns season: Prince of Persia for the A8!

[+MrFish]

4 hours ago, rensoup said:

Well the cat's out the bag... 

 

"Cat"? Where's the mouse?

 

[+MrFish]

4 hours ago, emkay said:

Prince of pcnsla ?

 

IMO the title should be readable on a title screen.  

 

This

 

[Jacques]

22 minutes ago, MrFish said:

 

"Cat"? Where's the mouse?

 

On the best looking title screen visualization you prepared ?

 

 

I once thought (hoped) it's gonna be the one and stay... ?

 

Edited August 19, 2021 by Jacques

[TIX]

7 hours ago, emkay said:

Prince of pcnsla ?

The image looks great. And there are vertically 22 more possible.

IMO the title should be readable on a title screen.  

Weird coincidence.. I tried a different arm position a couple of months ago,

needs more work on the lettering and background, but I have no intention to finish this, just a quick job to see how it looks..

 

  <-

 

 

Edited August 19, 2021 by TIX

[Rybags]

Could one be done where the sword sits just under the text?  Given the curved shape it might work well.

 

[Mclaneinc]

Picture one is just awesome, both are great but one looks the one... (If only)

[youxia]

The first one is really good, even if it covers some of the text. Much more dynamic. If, as Rybags says, the sword could be moved a bit downwards while still following the text curve, it'd be probably ideal. And imo it doesn't need any more colour, sometimes less is more

[José Pereira]

I know I should not post anything here or not welcome by certain(s)...

But here's my 2cents and just about half a hour wasting so no problem:

by TIX with logo more on top.xex

Technical notes:

-> Logo title letters moved a bit up so PFs can have DLIs to be different colours than he and she under);

-> Image is in Antic4 charmode (yellow/blue are PF3);

-> Sword can now be coloured by PMGs (none is used untill now);

 

The title logo letters could and should be remaked to look better.

Probably something more can also be improved...

Thanks.

Going out to do other things.

?

 

[+DrVenkman]

2 hours ago, José Pereira said:

I know I should not post anything here or not welcome by certain(s)...

But here's my 2cents and just about half a hour wasting so no problem:

by TIX with logo more on top.xex 9.64 kB · 3 downloads

Technical notes:

-> Logo title letters moved a bit up so PFs can have DLIs to be different colours than he and she under);

-> Image is in Antic4 charmode (yellow/blue are PF3);

-> Sword can now be coloured by PMGs (none is used untill now);

 

The title logo letters could and should be remaked to look better.

Probably something more can also be improved...

Thanks.

Going out to do other things.

?

 

This looks really nice - I’m away from my Atari stuff until after work, but how many scanlines does this image require? In other words, will it work on a 240 line NTSC display?

[emkay]

4 hours ago, Rybags said:

Could one be done where the sword sits just under the text?  Given the curved shape it might work well.

 

As I wrote. There are 22 line more available. 

The picture lower and the title a with a lesser  height.

[José Pereira]

Like the 1st one much more.

Yes and have to agree with Emkay though isn't less times I did that logo title letters should not be behind so will move them later.

PMGs are used to colour (2grays on the sword that I just started) and think also can have shining colours stars:

Even that isn't and allmost will not be I'll end it soon, maybe for tomorrow...

 

P.s.- Also title logo letters also look better single white colour.

Edited August 19, 2021 by José Pereira

[STE'86]

another solution for adding colour without actually adding colour.
In the print design trade we would call this "duotone"

transitioning  from the light tones of one colour thru to the dark tones of another. i quite like this effect tbh.

[+x=usr(1536)]

3 hours ago, STE'86 said:

another solution for adding colour without actually adding colour.
In the print design trade we would call this "duotone"

transitioning  from the light tones of one colour thru to the dark tones of another. i quite like this effect tbh.

That really does suit it quite nicely.

[Mclaneinc]

Yup, my fave so far..

[rensoup]

15 hours ago, MrFish said:

 

"Cat"? Where's the mouse?

 

I guess you skim over anything I write...

On 8/12/2021 at 3:57 AM, rensoup said:

Jokes aside, I'd consider your take on that picture if it had some form of mouse... I'd much prefer to have characters instead of just vista but the mouse is a compromise.

 

[rensoup]

14 hours ago, Jacques said:

On the best looking title screen visualization you prepared ?

spam alert

[rensoup]

12 hours ago, TIX said:

Weird coincidence.. I tried a different arm position a couple of months ago,

that's a little too extreme, the idea with the vertically oriented sword was to have something that plays nicer with the A8 limits (the horizontal sword is really taxing in terms of color count)

[rensoup]

8 hours ago, DrVenkman said:

his looks really nice - I’m away from my Atari stuff until after work, but how many scanlines does this image require? In other words, will it work on a 240 line NTSC display?

The picture uses 216 lines so no issue

8 hours ago, emkay said:

As I wrote. There are 22 line more available. 

The picture lower and the title a with a lesser  height.

I stuck to 216 lines a while back, can't remember why but probably some annoying technical issue.

 

The problem with going beyond 224 lines is that it's going to clip on a lot of TVs anyway, so the issue will be similar.  There's no rule that says the logo must be 100% readable... if it looks good it's ok to bend the rules.

 

[STE'86]

6 minutes ago, rensoup said:

that's a little too extreme, the idea with the vertically oriented sword was to have something that plays nicer with the A8 limits (the horizontal sword is really taxing in terms of color count)

it would help maybe if you converted it using the white as pmgs so we can all see what areas are too much for overlay

[rensoup]

6 hours ago, STE'86 said:

another solution for adding colour without actually adding colour.
In the print design trade we would call this "duotone"

Sure looks nicer... but still 5 colors... 

 

I spent many weeks working on a tool to get more colors for PoP, so if the title pic uses 5, I'm going to be pissed.

[rensoup]

 

 

14 minutes ago, STE'86 said:

it would help maybe if you converted it using the white as pmgs so we can all see what areas are too much for overlay

You'd probably waste all the PMGs on that white color. It's generally not a good idea to convert a single color to PMG

 

This is a test I did (using my tool), and that's about as many colors as I could get. As you can see, I got a blue background and kept all 5 greys

 

 

 

[STE'86]

yeah, the problem is the greys are not really grey, they are all simply tonal placeholders for light,medium,dark shades for each element. so managing to preserve them all is obviously not going to help you in the end as very few of them would stay grey in the ideal final image.

[+MrFish]

3 hours ago, rensoup said:

I guess you skim over anything I write...

 

Right... no reason to imagine you had any kind of fixation on the mouse...

 

[_The Doctor__]

To be fair, I thought he absolutely wanted the mouse as well. It's okay though... looks like lots of concepts are being put forth, who knows all of the graphics presented might end up in the manual or pdf trailers etc etc etc. Promo pack ins etc etc

[fantômas]

3 hours ago, rensoup said:

 

You'd probably waste all the PMGs on that white color.

 

 

I think you are right.

My old overlay calculation program ends up using all available PMGs for that white color (Of course, it does not use very complex techniques...?).

But in mode 4, at the end, there are (almost) 6 colors (blue is the additional color in the picture below).

 

 

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