Unicorns season: Prince of Persia for the A8!

[Mclaneinc]

Have I just me Emkays brother?

 

I never said you can't cheat on the Atari hardware hence the mention of Omnimon, sigh...

 

I never gave the impression you could not cheat on real hardware, I simply talked Altirra because unless you have a Turbo freezer or Omnimon and a bit of machine code knowledge then you cannot do save states. Altirra acts as a very easily customisable cheaters paradise as its all in there, save states, rom changes, OS changes etc etc.

 

So yes it can be done on real hardware if you have the added items..

 

As for my attitude, look I get some flak for dragging threads in to off topic nightmare land, your reply was nothing to do with the act of cheating or that game, it was just to push that hardware can do it too so I wanted to curtail a drift. If I have offended you I apologise but you manner isn't so sweet either.

[Mclaneinc]

38 minutes ago, Jacques said:

Well, people can hack virtually everything given time and knowledge (), but that's a real longshot, as most people just want to play, not hack their games or change memory-addresses values in QMEG monitor, etc.

Anyway, PoP will miss nothing for me in this area and I'm glad rensoup will add basic cheat options, I only explained that while emulators are helpful, maybe they shouldn't be treated like common denominator.

And truly agree, NOTHING beats the hardware and yes I have a great love of Altirra as well but beside the keyboard I'm typing on is a stacked C64 and 800XL, but we have to take into account that not only is hardware starting to be like Ebay gold fodder but its not always easy or possible to get the real stuff especially when people choose such silly prices while others  pay them. So that make's Altirra and all the other emulators out there so damn useful and special. Altirra is my fave because it just grew soo well and the complexity of possibilities for devs and gamers is just amazing. The fact Altirra is out there and is used in the production of hardware and software for real machines is a testament to it.

 

@Mr Robot me an expert on it, nah, more over excited amatuer   Also I have more time than most to sit and play with it...

Edited June 24, 2020 by Mclaneinc

[Jacques]

41 minutes ago, Mclaneinc said:

Have I just me Emkays brother?

That's just very cool start considering your "apology" at the end. Was it intended to offend me or Emkay whom I don't even know personally and don't share many of his oppinions? No clue who you met, but I feel more and more hypocrisy in your good-mannered answers, yet leaving that malicious taste.

 

41 minutes ago, Mclaneinc said:

your reply was nothing to do with the act of cheating or that game

Yeah, discussing PoP cheats in context of "Altirra/Emulator will help you" and expressing similiar feel that start-timer is not that important anyway, had indeed nothing to do with PoP 😐

 

41 minutes ago, Mclaneinc said:

If I have offended you I apologise but you manner isn't so sweet either.

What wasn't sweet enough for you in my first reply (#971), honestly? Or you're the one who is biased (#972)and living past discussion about intro, etc.

 

And believe me, I wasn't starting "real hardware vs emulator" flame, as I used both, I just feel real Atari is more "important" when it comes to designing software usability-wise.

 

Coming back to PoP, I'm excited to hear the news from @rensoup after few weeks about colourful title-screen, I feel the end-effect will be great indeed even if not "classic"-alike and Atari will excel GFX-wise not only in the gameplay 👍

Edited June 24, 2020 by Jacques

[Mclaneinc]

2 minutes ago, Jacques said:

Coming back to PoP

Yes please....From both sides..

[TapperP]

Guys, c'mon. We have amazing people creating and porting games for our beloved classic Ataris in 2020. What is there to be unhappy about?! 😛

 

rensoup, please keep up the good work, I hope this project can be completed and we can have the full game on Atari!

[rensoup]

I'm focusing on the title pic... it's quite a bit of work and it's difficult to tell if it's going  to be worth the hassle.

 

So yeah I'm not sure where I'm going yet but that's worked nicely before!

[Yautja]

I'm writting an article about the game for Atariteca (which I expect to re-launch during the week). Could please someone contribute with a horizontal photo of the game running in real hardware? Full credits will be given.

 

Regards,

 

- Y -

[Jacques]

@Yautja

Do you still need it, please? And indeed you'd like to have "old-school" photo of the monitor? I only have LCD 4:3, if that would do...

[solaris104]

From party Platariada 🙂
http://www.krupkaj.cz/xgal/album.php?show=PLatariada2020#51

 

[Yautja]

16 hours ago, Jacques said:

@Yautja

Do you still need it, please? And indeed you'd like to have "old-school" photo of the monitor? I only have LCD 4:3, if that would do...

Sure! Please, PM me.

[Mclaneinc]

19 hours ago, solaris104 said:

From party Platariada 🙂
http://www.krupkaj.cz/xgal/album.php?show=PLatariada2020#51

 

 

Nice to see a selection of machines being used and the kids getting in on it...What was  the chip and battery? towards the end, looks like its in resin?

 

Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread, if there's an answer then maybe PM it to me?

Edited July 16, 2020 by Mclaneinc

[Jacques]

5 hours ago, Yautja said:

Sure! Please, PM me.

Will do this evening (European time)

Edited July 16, 2020 by Jacques

[+madness77]

competitors, side by side

 

 

 

[Jacques]

 

One of my photos I already shared with @Yautja

Edited July 17, 2020 by Jacques

[Rybags]

The Atari aspect ratio looks so much better.  Like cinema vs crappy old 4:3 TV.

[starfighter]

31 minutes ago, Rybags said:

The Atari aspect ratio looks so much better.  Like cinema vs crappy old 4:3 TV.

The graphics looks much better in my opinion too

[Rybags]

Yep.  C64 colours remind me of the crappy 1-bit RGB component that 1970s terminals had.

Immersion in PoP is an important thing, and good graphics + speed of gameplay are big contributors to that.

[starfighter]

Looking best on old school monitors from the 80s anyways

Still my original one from 86....

[Bill Loguidice]

The Atari version looks great and hopefully it stays so in motion. The C-64 version obviously doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the photo makes it seem.

[_The Doctor__]

My C-64 looks just as bad as the photo,

I am enjoying the U.S.P.O.P. version on the Atari much more... even at this stage of development... hands down better game play and look. Sounds pretty good too...

All by itself the C-64 might have looked okay with no comparisons and nostalgia glasses on... side by side... not a chance... it might be hard for C64 fanatics to accept, but that's life. I really enjoy it when people say don't believe your lying eyes though... quite rich. Both are pictures and are equally degraded as such. I guess that means if one looks better live, then the other may also look even better live... all things being equal.

Edited July 18, 2020 by _The Doctor__

[Jacques]

There are few screenshots from different 8-bit computers I've put together a while ago:

 

C64 version looks not as attractive as rensoup's (speaking of dungeons, which turned out great on A8), on the other hand it's pure and clean as it tries to emulate Amiga/PC geometry/look/feel as good, as possible with their poor and limited palette.
But overall gfx- and dynamics- wise, the force is definitely on our side

Edited July 18, 2020 by Jacques

[Wilheim]

Well, I hope there will be a new version soon, so we can enjoy this great conversion!

[rensoup]

I've done most of the work on the picture tool but it's still a long process... 

[patjomki]

Are there any of the missing levels already done or do you just work on the picture tool?

Edited September 18, 2020 by patjomki

[rensoup]

2 hours ago, patjomki said:

Are there any of the missing levels already done or do you just work on the picture tool?

The levels were completed a while back, it's just missing the vizier fighting animations which @TIX is working on...

 

There's also the princess room which will require some work as well 😵