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For the 40th anniversary. here is an early promotional video, which was on a tape dated 12/31/1978.  I suspect (but do not know for sure) that it was made for 1979 January CES. This was copied from a 3/4" tape just in the last week.

 

 

 

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Somebody still has a working 3/4" deck? Wow, the last time I saw one of those was in the movie Speed

where they somehow used one to LOOP a 10 second recording.

None of the ones I ever used in my TV career ever had a Loop function haha.

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No one noticed The Electric Company Spelling Fun or Craps and Slots on the Roulette cartridge?

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34 minutes ago, BSRSteve said:

No one noticed The Electric Company Spelling Fun or Craps and Slots on the Roulette cartridge?

This guy did. 😎

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To copy what I said on Tommy's Amico thread...

 

Well, this doesn't pick out all the differences (I skipped all the unreleased or changes games and software changes), but here's some of the changes:

 

  • Keyboard component (2:30):
    • Keys are different: all white instead of various colors, different sizes (ex: right shift), locations, different meanings.  One key is blank!
    • Keyboard surrounded by gold plate.
    • Tape drive is very different (turned sideways and is raised vertically)
    • Microphone is different (blocky instead of cylindrical)
    • Tape cases are different (clear bottoms so you can see the tape).
    • Tape drive lid wobbles when user inserts a tape.  KC looks strongly like a mock up.
  • Intellivision games:
    • Football
      • Font for letters looks very different; thinner and boxy.  The "I" in "TIME" is proportional width, not fixed width.  Might be using GRAM for letters.
      • Font for numbers looks mostly correct but the zero has a weird extra pixel in the lower right... as if a zero was merged with a Q.
      • Tackled quarterback 'explodes' when tackled.
      • One player returning to the huddle is stuck in running mode until the 2nd line-up starts.
      • Horizontal scrolling is buggy.  The green of the field is out of sync with the white of the field (watch left and right sides of screen)
    • Armor Battle
      • Tanks seem flickery when they turn
  • Keyboard Component tapes:
    • All text is mocked up: wrong font, font is blue instead of white, wrong sizes, different sizes on same screen.
    • Graphics are mocked up as well (ex: exercise figure at 9:36 looks like arranged paper cut outs)
    • Overall, it looks like it was mocked up with TV electronics, not computer electronics, of the the time (ex: "COMA TALAY VOO" is smoothly revealed in Conversational French instead of 1 letter appearing at a time)
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5 hours ago, BSRSteve said:

No one noticed The Electric Company Spelling Fun or Craps and Slots on the Roulette cartridge?

According to the old intellivisionlives website.

"APh completed (and was paid for) this adaptation of the dice game Craps, but it doesn't appear to have ever been announced or scheduled by Marketing for release."

 

Maybe it's on a floppy somewhere.

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14 hours ago, Denicio said:

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Space Battle?

 

Anyone else catch that?

 

 

What do you hear, starbuck?

 

I KNEW IT! When I first got this game in 79/80 every time I played SPACE BATTLE I always see the enemy ship looking like Battlestar Galactica Cylon Raider but now seeing the label help prove it

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14 minutes ago, Atariboy2600 said:

 

I KNEW IT! When I first got this game in 79/80 every time I played SPACE BATTLE I always see the enemy ship looking like Battlestar Galactica Cylon Raider but now seeing the label help prove it

 

https://history.blueskyrangers.com/mattelelectronics/games/spacebattle.html

"If the enemy spacecraft look familiar, it's because they are Cylon raiders from the late-seventies TV programBattlestar Gallactica. One of Mattel's subsidiaries, Concepts 2000, had the license to produce Battlestar Galactica electronic toys, so it was figured to be a lock that Mattel would get the license to produce the official Battlestar Gallactica videogame. Wrong. The game was well into development when they discovered Mattel didn't get the license. The name was changed, but the graphics remained the same."

 

I wonder what happened to the license.  I don't think anyone else made battlestar galactica video games at the time.  Maybe they just wanted too much money.

 

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I did comment about "Roulette, Craps & Slots" on my old website 21 years ago.  It would have been more interesting than just Roulette.

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Just now, mr_me said:

Roulette itself is over 3.2k.  Not much room for anything else.

Has anyone looked inside to see if any of Craps or Slots is still in there?

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7 minutes ago, BSRSteve said:

Has anyone looked inside to see if any of Craps or Slots is still in there?

Not yet, but I'll go take a peek now.

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The first thing I found was the easter egg.  If you have the ROM in .bin+.cfg format, just open up the .cfg file in the editor of your choice and add these lines at the bottom.  (I suggest making copies of the .bin and .cfg files first and appending " (Hack)" to their names.)

 

[macro]

p 502b 204

p 5031 204

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40 minutes ago, mr_me said:

Roulette itself is over 3.2k.  Not much room for anything else.

Yeah, nothing but padded zeroes after $5cc0.  I didn't find any text either except for "STAKE" and "PLAYER."  I'll see if I can decipher the graphical elements (not using the ECS "sucky" feature this time).

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On 12/4/2019 at 3:52 PM, Zendocon said:

Yeah, nothing but padded zeroes after $5cc0.  I didn't find any text either except for "STAKE" and "PLAYER."  I'll see if I can decipher the graphical elements (not using the ECS "sucky" feature this time).

Sadly I don't think there are any remnants of Craps or Slots in Roulette.  Here is a text file of the lower 8 bits of the game expressed as "graphics":

 

roulette.txt

 

The main graphics start at about $50e8, with some more at $57f8.  Sadly no dice or cherries to be seen :(

 

Taking a similar approach with Space Battle and Sharp Shot also fails to show the Cylon Basestar seen in the TV POWWW version of the game:

 

spaceBattle.txt sharpShot.txt

 

baseStar.thumb.png.176598b333e8a85c2fe8950cbc87a0a2.png

 

Is it just me, or does the Basestar look more like a Battlestar?  And is it not a bit weird that you would be shooting a Battlestar?

 

The TV POWWW videos of Space Battle (or KSPACE as the game was known inside Mattel) might show an interesting development titbit.  You will notice in the single player version of the game the centre of your crosshair is very similar to the Space Battle one, and the Cylons sometimes turn and leave the screen, such that you can see the top or bottom of the spaceship, just like they do in Space Battle:

 

 

However, in the (later?) two player version of the game, the Space Battle like target is missing and the Cylons seem to have more limited movement, never turning such that your can see their top or underside:

 

 

This more limited movement is also seen the Sharp Shot version of the game, and might suggest that the two player version of KSPACE is a significant rewrite, more closely related to the Sharp Shot version of the game than its Space Battle based single player sibling.

 

Anyway, if you fancy looking through game ROMs for graphics, here is the Perl script I used to generate the files above:

 

stdBin2Gfx.pl

 

 

Cheers

 

decle

 

 

Having found a better video of the single player version of KSPACE it also has a some interesting Basestar graphics that are momentarily garbled as it comes onto screen at 1:00:

 

garbled.thumb.gif.e2863d123620f4bbf8f1113b5630333a.gif

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Better single player KSPACE video
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So, I guess that Roulette just took more space than they expected and the other games couldn't fit in the cartridge. And then they never were released.

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On 12/4/2019 at 1:37 AM, Lathe26 said:

To copy what I said on Tommy's Amico thread...

 

Well, this doesn't pick out all the differences (I skipped all the unreleased or changes games and software changes), but here's some of the changes:

 

  • Keyboard component (2:30):
    • Keys are different: all white instead of various colors, different sizes (ex: right shift), locations, different meanings.  One key is blank!
    • Keyboard surrounded by gold plate.
    • Tape drive is very different (turned sideways and is raised vertically)
    • Microphone is different (blocky instead of cylindrical)
    • Tape cases are different (clear bottoms so you can see the tape).
    • Tape drive lid wobbles when user inserts a tape.  KC looks strongly like a mock up.
  • Intellivision games:
    • Football
      • Font for letters looks very different; thinner and boxy.  The "I" in "TIME" is proportional width, not fixed width.  Might be using GRAM for letters.
      • Font for numbers looks mostly correct but the zero has a weird extra pixel in the lower right... as if a zero was merged with a Q.
      • Tackled quarterback 'explodes' when tackled.
      • One player returning to the huddle is stuck in running mode until the 2nd line-up starts.
      • Horizontal scrolling is buggy.  The green of the field is out of sync with the white of the field (watch left and right sides of screen)
    • Armor Battle
      • Tanks seem flickery when they turn
  • Keyboard Component tapes:
    • All text is mocked up: wrong font, font is blue instead of white, wrong sizes, different sizes on same screen.
    • Graphics are mocked up as well (ex: exercise figure at 9:36 looks like arranged paper cut outs)
    • Overall, it looks like it was mocked up with TV electronics, not computer electronics, of the the time (ex: "COMA TALAY VOO" is smoothly revealed in Conversational French instead of 1 letter appearing at a time)

 

The tape drive is chonk!

image.thumb.png.9d6b12ce9ffc681935194e2bfb4d3198.png

 

So's that electric razor... I mean microphone:

image.png.b784bb136f7a012ef06b734f4d50cefc.png

 

Watch closely at around 2:54 - 3:00, where the cassette "lid" shifts in a way that makes it obvious it's just a piece of plastic sitting over a hole.

 

And yeah, something's weird with the text in Football.  Good spot on the extra pixel on the 0. The other labels do indeed seem to be GRAM-based text.  Also, watch the display glitches during horizontal scroll around 3:54 (+/-).

 

As you noted, the background wash doesn't seem to scroll with the foreground pixels (see right edge of screen). At the very least, they aren't suppressing the pixels that went beyond the right-hand boundary.  In 1978, they would still be using a STIC emulator box rather than the final chip.  That still seems like a weird bug to have.

 

The blue in Baseball is somewhat muted.  (Also seen in Armor Battle and Math Fun.)  It actually looks a lot like the blue I got from the AY-3-8915 data sheet a long time ago.

 

The flickery tanks in Armor Battle are likely due to the fact they're two MOBs each, and they probably haven't coordinated the MOB updates properly yet.

 

The version of Math Fun is the "forward digits" version, and that brown looks brown!  Well, orangish brown rather than greenish brown.

 

And yeah... that text from the keyboard component was a total mockup.  And the physical fitness... LOL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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When they removed the other games from Roulette, they left room for this:

.TITLECODE:
        PSHR    R5                              ; 5026   0275
        MVI     .PSG0.rgt_hand,R0               ; 5027   0280 01FE
        CMPI    #$001E, R0                      ; 5029   0378 001E
        BNEQ    L_5079                          ; 502B   020C 004C

        MVI     .PSG0.lft_hand,R0               ; 502D   0280 01FF
        CMPI    #$005E, R0                      ; 502F   0378 005E
        BNEQ    L_5079                          ; 5031   020C 0046

        MVII    #$0007, R3                      ; 5033   02BB 0007
        MVII    #$023C, R4                      ; 5035   02BC 023C

        JSR     R5,     X_PRINT_R5              ; 5037   0004 0118 007B
        STRING  "        JOHN        "          ; 503A  
        DECLE   $0000                           ; 504E   0000

        MVII    #$0007, R3                      ; 504F   02BB 0007
        MVII    #$0292, R4                      ; 5051   02BC 0292

        JSR     R5,     X_PRINT_R5              ; 5053   0004 0118 007B
        STRING  "ETTELUOR"                      ; 5056  
        DECLE   $0000                           ; 505E   0000

        MVII    #$0007, R3                      ; 505F   02BB 0007
        MVII    #$02D0, R4                      ; 5061   02BC 02D0

        JSR     R5,     X_PRINT_R5              ; 5063   0004 0118 007B
        STRING  "2001"                          ; 5066   0032 0030 0030 0031
        DECLE   $0000                           ; 506A   0000

        MVII    #$0007, R3                      ; 506B   02BB 0007
        MVII    #$02D5, R4                      ; 506D   02BC 02D5

        JSR     R5,     X_PRINT_R5              ; 506F   0004 0118 007B
        STRING  " D E I"                        ; 5072  
        DECLE   $0000                           ; 5078   0000
L_5079:
        PULR    R5                              ; 5079   02B5
        MOVR    R5,     R7                      ; 507A   00AF

 

Dabney Eats It, I suppose.

 

If I decoded that correctly with my calibrated eyeball, that requires you to press 1+2+3 on the right controller, and 1+3 on the left controller.  (O HAI!, I DID!)

You should get this:

 

Roulette Easter Egg

 

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