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This is information, to prevent that someone transfer me some money via PayPal - like donation or hard disk driver SW order. It works not, and could not solve issue over 2 weeks - they just can not fix trivial problem. Really pathetic. Will cancel account in couple days. But maybe not that big loss, as they raised their fee significantly in last months. So, at moment only bank transfer. Would be good to have some WEB alternative. For details:  [email protected]

 

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I received your email (and refund) regarding this problem this morning. I wonder if there is some way around this to keep using paypal? I mean, you are selling legitimate software.

 

Unfortunately I cannot use bank transfer to re-send you the payment however. My wife would kill me if she say a bank transfer to Hungary. Our bank account was compromised a few years ago so I would rather not freak her out. 

 

We will have to find another way.

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I was actually about to ping you on buying the HD Driver.

 

Let me know when you can get payment stuff figured out.

 

Google has a pay service right?

 

Zillo?

 

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I wonder if you go about the sale of your driver differently through Paypal if it will make a difference.

 

For example, instead of having the buyer privately send you the money if you set up a donation link on your page instead. So, you will be asking for a $XX donation for continued development and product support and as a consequence of the donation the person receives a unique driver download link.

 

This way nobody can file a charge back for goods not received or something like that.... as they willingly gave you a donation.

 

I donated once to a person who created a dual pane file manager and in return received access to a special download section where I can download current versions of the program.

 

Paypal is simply trying to keep things on the "up and up" so I can see their view. They are seeing payments going directly to your paypal account with no real evidence for what it is for. This opens the possibility for someone to force a charge back from you after they receive the driver and say that they "did not receive anything". And Paypal would have to reverse the charge as the payment does not show a product has been purchased. I would imagine they lose money somewhere when that happens.

 

 

Just a thought.  If you set up a donation style setup on your site and some sort of unique login for users who have donated it will make life really easy when distributing updates. You will no longer have to worry about reaching out to people for them (or them reaching out directly to you). They can simply log in to their private access and download the latest version. All you would have to do is maintain the private download section. I think this is the perfect option honestly.

 

When you have it sorted and I can pay you normally I will re-submit the payment. Keep me updated!

 

 

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The problems with PayPal are very different nature in my case. Paying for concrete thing, like driver SW worked well. There were some problems of course in some cases - most of it was that partitioning, driver worked not well. And the reason was in most cases low quality Flash card. Or incompatible CF card in case of IDE driver (timing is crucial). And sometimes Atari worked not so well - usual aging problems. All it was resolved after some mailing - and that's another reason to do all it via e-mail. There is no problem about evidence for what people should pay - Lotharek recommends my driver, and people on forums .. And there is free demo/test v. too.  Couple times e-mail finished in spam folder, even if there was no any exe, sys file (potential viruses), and I think that only once I needed to send it from another mail server.

And that leads us to real cause of problem - lot of harmful activity online - malware. Then, using money transfer services like PayPal for money laundry and who knows what other. Especially complicated when it is international. In short: my problem started with moving. They asked for address proof, I sent it. Then I moved again after some 7 months because bad people. And that was when something went bad at PayPal - and I was just unable to submit address proof (photo of specific document(s)) . Tried with their customer service, phoning in Ireland (gave up after listening music for 2 minutes (at high tarif)). After some harsh complain, I finally got e-mail from staff with explanation how to prove address - nothing new, and despite I said that it works not that's all what they did. I even sent photo in reply, but nothing. Paid 4 Euros to bank to get some doc. where on same page are my data and their stamps (normally it goes over multiple pages) - just that it go in sink at PayPal.  I guess that real problem is that there are more and more rules, controls forced by governments, while number  of humans, who work there is very limited (why to pay more ...) . And they are too busy with bigger fishes than me and similar, with small traffic.

Things gone complicated, and even bad with banks too, in last months, year. Now you need cellar phone to be able to access your bank account online - will get single use password at each visit in SMS. Certainly as result of many breaks of usual static password  based access. There was even some rule that those who pay with pay-pass must insert card and give pin code after some number of paying (as additional safety, whatever) - but with stupid text on terminal: limit is exceeded - what limit when I have enough on account, and I am far from set card spending limit ? I say, that people working on that SW really does not care to make it properly and not misleading.  It was over some 3 months, and nicest thing is that in bank those who work with customers knew nothing about it 😀 

Things just went too complicated in money sphere, and on top of it, people working on SW is really not competent. Or maybe just don't care what people think - money is more pleasing 😀

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Bank transfers work well, may be little slower than with PayPal, but better slower than non-working. What need to take care is to send in specific currency to account, so if is asked in Euro, to Euro account, sending Euros. Otherwise receiving bank will charge pretty much for conversion - can be more than 30% .

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Slightly off topic, but I use the TransferWise site/app for sending money in international currency. The fees and conversion rate aren’t exorbitant either.


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I opened account at transferwise, because someone here using it and is satisfied.  However, I don't see that they accept credit card (like Visa, Master) payments, what would be good for some people. They give regular type bank account(s), possible in diverse currencies, and then is possible to make SEPA transfer there.  Not sure that it will be better than transfer to some Hu bank, but maybe someone knows it better .. For many people bank transfers to Hu bank are just too expensive. So, I have lot of orders waiting better way.

And to add, PayPal is definitely out of options for me. There are plans that some Hu bank take over international online transfers, somewhere at April. Because government and I guess 'some others' here don't like what PayPal does ..

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More about transferwise - after some experience with :

All went pretty smooth and fast. For instance they told: up to 5 days to verify ID - was less than 5 hours. My master card arrived today - was said that will come at Febr. 12.

And actually, payment/transfer with cards work. But you need first to register there. Then can send money to your account for free - with debit card like Master, Visa.

And from your account can transfer like it is at PayPal - e-mail address based to other people registered there. Fees are low.

Borderless debit card is what will get for free too - only condition is to need to send first some money on account (20 Eu for instance, if Eu account). After verification, that money stays on account, for user. And best way to send there money is with card - then no bank charge, plus it arrives instantly.

I even added their logo to my homepage. As see, they want to expand, to take it over from ..  Will show always fees, before user starts transaction.

My transfer of 20 Euros went slow, because in local bank they gave me first some wrong info about card usage, there was pretty messy sometimes at counter. But did not forget to raise diverse fees 😞

https://transferwise.com

 

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