+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Does anyone know how I can make a backup of my original Alpha Systems Cassette Operating System disk? I have tried my Happy 7.1 with all the Alpha Systems PDB's and none work, I also tried my copy II PC option board and that didn't work either. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Sadly it does not look like its been cracked or extremely rare and never been given to the preservation people like @Farb to get preserved and cracked so you could have a working backup that you could then backup at any time. I've added Farb to this post so maybe he can help if you don't mind sending said disk to one of the team. Wish I could help but Farbs and the guys are an amazing set of folks. Paul.. Edited January 26, 2020 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 You need to copy it on a Kyroflux disk copier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Always wanted to get one but by the time I really wanted it I realised I had about 10 real protected disks left so 100 bucks (then) was too much for me....Dead handy though for the mass user who likes 100% real disk use.. Edited January 26, 2020 by Mclaneinc Spelling...As usual.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 IIRC the "Backup Master" utility from Duplicating Technologies (Duplitech) has parameters to remove the CP on both versions of Alpha's C.O.S. I know that something like that works, because I sent my original disk to Carmel Andrews a long time ago. Never did get the box of Smarties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 14 hours ago, videofx said: Does anyone know how I can make a backup of my original Alpha Systems Cassette Operating System disk? Why not post here an ATR of it? Perhaps we can crack it without the original disk. I am astonished that it cannot be copied with a Happy drive. All other titles by Alpha Systems have a not that sophisticated protection (duplicate sectors IIRC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Nevermind…. Found it in the Holmes archive here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, Nukey Shay said: Nevermind…. Found it in the Holmes archive here Thanks but that KOZ's COS. I already saw that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, DjayBee said: Why not post here an ATR of it? Perhaps we can crack it without the original disk. I am astonished that it cannot be copied with a Happy drive. All other titles by Alpha Systems have a not that sophisticated protection (duplicate sectors IIRC). Thats what I thought, I was able to copy Scanalyzer with Happy 7.1 but not COS. The copy protection is different, COS disk Tracks 21-30 something are unreadable by happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, videofx said: Thanks but that KOZ's COS. I already saw that one Yea, I asked about this years ago and someone did the same thing. That's a different program as you pointed out. I scanned the manual for Alpha Systems program a number of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-cassette-operating-system_29275.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Nukey Shay said: IIRC the "Backup Master" utility from Duplicating Technologies (Duplitech) has parameters to remove the CP on both versions of Alpha's C.O.S. I know that something like that works, because I sent my original disk to Carmel Andrews a long time ago. Never did get the box of Smarties Do you have the Backup Master or know where I can find it? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, DjayBee said: Why not post here an ATR of it? Perhaps we can crack it without the original disk. I am astonished that it cannot be copied with a Happy drive. All other titles by Alpha Systems have a not that sophisticated protection (duplicate sectors IIRC). I will upload an ATR and hopefully not to hard to crack. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, Nukey Shay said: Nevermind…. Found it in the Holmes archive here That's a type-in listing from german magazine "Computer Kontakt" (named CKCOS in my collection). There is also COS by german "Happy Computer" magazine (named HappyCOS in my collection). And afaik, there also exist some COS programs in polish, czech or other languages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Sorry...I didn't check the .atr Searching for Duplitech's Backup Master. I can't be the only one who has these things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Nukey Shay said: Sorry...I didn't check the .atr Searching for Duplitech's Backup Master. I can't be the only one who has these things! Thanks hope you find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Well, I've got it in my hands anyway. Made '86 by Bob Gardner who did Pirate's Treasure Chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nukey Shay said: Well, I've got it in my hands anyway. Made '86 by Bob Gardner who did Pirate's Treasure Chest. Great! What do you have in your hands? Can you share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 The actual disk. I think I have a supplement disk someplace as well (which contains many more unprotects). Might have to mail this off if nobody has it...no hardware on my side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nukey Shay said: The actual disk. I think I have a supplement disk someplace as well (which contains many more unprotects). Might have to mail this off if nobody has it...no hardware on my side. I have Happy drive and Copy II PC Option board hopefully that can copy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I meant for cracking. Don't know if these things even work anymore ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijor Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 You are interested in a crack, or you want the original copy protected? I should have a crack somewhere although I can't find it for some reason. It's not that rare, somebody should have it somewhere OTOH, I would like a digital copy of that original disk Yes, later releases by Alpha Systems have advanced protections that the Happy can't copy (Scanalizer 3, Adv Prot Techniques, etc). Don't remember if Happy 7.1 has any specific PDB that makes a "seudo" copy that can only run from a Happy drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 56 minutes ago, ijor said: You are interested in a crack, or you want the original copy protected? I should have a crack somewhere although I can't find it for some reason. It's not that rare, somebody should have it somewhere OTOH, I would like a digital copy of that original disk Yes, later releases by Alpha Systems have advanced protections that the Happy can't copy (Scanalizer 3, Adv Prot Techniques, etc). Don't remember if Happy 7.1 has any specific PDB that makes a "seudo" copy that can only run from a Happy drive. A crack would be good and if no crack a way to backup the original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Any progress on this? Still looking to play around with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, scotty said: Any progress on this? Still looking to play around with it. Unless somebody posts something nothing will happen. @videofx what about your ATR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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