STE'86 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 c64 conversion of the Kitchen brother's 2600 game has gone beta 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Ah, nice, these Activision conversions have been really cool so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenJ Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Greg2600 said: Ah, nice, these Activision conversions have been really cool so far! I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoTonah Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Looking forward to what you come up with next. This is really well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STE'86 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 game released. available free here (sourcecode available later) https://csdb.dk/release/?id=187259 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 People do so much hard work to create these ports. However, do we really need them? It's like some people are hell-bent on trying to remove the reasons to own, use and play a real Atari 2600. Many Atari 2600 games are perfect as they are, any port or conversion just wouldn't feel right. There's also the simplicity of them sometimes, that works beautifully on the Atari console, but becomes a bit odd on the C64 side. I play Crackpots on the Atari because it gives me nice colors, unique and wonderful sounds, and good, simple playability. The C64 version takes almost all of this away, removes the impact of the 'flash' when a pot hits a spider (something is still there, but it doesn't seem as interesting), and gone are the chunky and nice graphics, replaced with something pretty generic-looking. The sunrise is nice, but it's just not the same. Addition of (not-so-interesting) music is like that awful background addition in 'Demon Attack''s C64-version. It is unnecessary and creates a different mood than you might want to exist in when playing this game. It's like taking the worst of both worlds; 1) Taking a very simplistic game that works wonderfully on Atari, but seems too simple for the C64 2) Makes it more complicated by adding unnecessary bells and whistles that distract from the experience Less is more. A sculpture is not done by adding more and more stuff, but chipping away from the stone until only the beautiful statue is left. A better idea would be to get inspired by these old games, and then creating something 'expansive' from that basic idea or feel, that's original and fits the C64 better. Just taking an old, simple game and 'C64izing it' is a terrible idea, it almost never works, and the end result is just not as fun, interesting, immersive or inspiring to play, and it lacks the 'feel' of the early 1980s and Atari 2600's massive color palette. It would be better to make a more complex game that utilizes the C64's strengths properly, and doesn't try to mimic some other machine's strengths (that it can't reach, like that sunrise palette). Instead of porting Yoomps and Crackpotses (?), why not just get inspired by something a bit more involving, and then continue where it left off - expand it, where Atari 2600's limitations stopped the original, etc. Add something original, unique and valuable to it, something with a personality, not just a simple hair color change, for crying out loud. I have to question the motivation for these ports. Why port something you can just play on the original system? Just to show the machine can do it, even if it's not as fun to play? If you are going to port, either do as identical port as possible, or enhance it properly - don't do this half-arsed easy idea of taking a simple, easy-to-port game and then adding bells, whistles and other unnecessary stuff and call yourself a genius. Sure, it's hard work, but I think this hard work could be producing something more interesting, maybe something new and more expressive of self and C64, instead of a 'simple port stuffed with cosmetic crap on top'? Just an idea. I am sure that even people that praise these ports and 'love them', and also random people that never played on old systems much before, will eventually always rather go back to the original and play that, and get much more out of it than these modern ports that are done 'just because we can'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STE'86 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 you seem as usual to be in the minority so if you dont mind we will ignore your drivel like we did on Lemon. thanks for the input. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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