c64 conversion of Crackpots has gone to beta testers

[STE'86]

i know its controversial to post c64 stuff on here but i also know that quite a few of you have played our other atari 2600 conversions so here is the vid of the latest one.

 

[+Stephen]

Sweet - I never played this BITD.  Just now seeing it.

[Rybags]

Had never heard of or seen this one before.  Looks like Kaboom in reverse.

OK - seems until now it was a 2600 exclusive.

[abbotkinneydude]

Any chance your conversion could be ported to the Atari 8-Bit?

 

I know Phaeron has converted 2600 titles in the past (including Activision's own Stampede) but Crackpots feels like it would benefit from a true adaptation/conversion considering how more advanced the Atari 8-Bit is compared to the 2600.

 

As a reminder, the Atari 8-Bit version of Pitfall II was actually based on the original VCS/2600 code so expanding pre-existing 2600 code has definitely been done before on the platform.

[STE'86]

When finished, the coder Antonio Savona will as usual release the source code for the game so there is no reason that one of the a8 coders on here couldnt convert it in fairly short order. the graphics would work with a bit of tweaking. most of them being limited to 16x8 and 16x16 sizes.

 

[patjomki]

15 hours ago, STE'86 said:

i know its controversial to post c64 stuff on here[...]

 

If you know that it is controversial why don't you post in the appropriate subforum?

 

https://atariage.com/forums/forum/172-commodore-8-bit-computers/

[STE'86]

its already in there. but many a8 folks who also play our stuff dont always visit there regularly. hence its posted here, on the 2600 and on the c64 forum.

[patjomki]

People who are interested in C64 conversions visit there. I'd appreciate if you do not post OT stuff here.

[RAM]

6 minutes ago, patjomki said:

People who are interested in C64 conversions visit there. I'd appreciate if you do not post OT stuff here.

And I appreciate it being posted here. I'd never have known about it otherwise.

[www.atarimania.com]

Certainly not more off-topic than some utter crap posted on this forum on a regular basis… There's just a single mention of a Commodore 64 conversion every three or four months which could give ideas to some programmers here, it's not proselytism either. Where's the harm?

[Bunsen]

Would not see EVERY C= release here. But some from folks who are knowing both scenes and contributing to both... Why not? OK, for me.

[sargie]

Thanks for posting here Ste and thanks for all the cool work in this and the other games you’ve been involved with. 
 

I really appreciate it.

[patjomki]

Maybe it's the language barrier but I thought: "Cool. Another conversion from C64 to ATARI 8-bit" just to find out (again) that it's not the case.

 

So even though most of the users seem to appreciate the info perhaps STE'86 can put an OT: in the topic of such threads when posting in the atari 8-bit forum?

Edited January 28, 2020 by patjomki

[+mytek]

I like seeing cross posting between machine types from time to time. Speaking from a hardware developer point of view, I can get new ideas in this way. And I would think the same would apply to a software/game developer on the A8 platform, which is really what this particular cross post was more about.

 

So... so tired of the childish reactions to hearing about other computer's accomplishments. Reminds me of being in the 80's and 90's with the MAC vs. the PC or Atari vs. Commodore flame wars. None of it ever contributed anything of value to the community.

 

[emkay]

 

9 hours ago, patjomki said:

Maybe it's the language barrier but I thought: "Cool. Another conversion from C64 to ATARI 8-bit" just to find out (again) that it's not the case.

 

So even though most of the users seem to appreciate the info perhaps STE'86 can put an OT: in the topic of such threads when posting in the atari 8-bit forum?

 

Welcome to the weird part of "when you had chosen the Atari 800 XL/XE" .

Particular this thread points to "Flying Unicorns" , if you understand.

 

All that friendly "welcome my dear C64 developer" has a background.

They think of "if we do soft-soaping them good enough , they will possibly do the conversion for the Atari, too. " 

 

This is also supported by people who don't have the slightest clue, of what the differences between the Atari and the C64 were.

In real it is that , if someone barely learned to push the Sprites on the C64 around, he will never get the conversion to the Atari done.

This type of conversation helps to make "another" game for the C64 and dries out the Atari community.

 

On the other hand, the guy that wrote Bomber for the Atari, could change the available game to the content of crackpots.

 

 

[Jetboot Jack]

Really nice - keeps the 2600 vibe and adds lots of nice graphic details..

 

Nice tunes too - but I think I prefer the squish spider and pot smash sounds in the original 🙂 

 

sTeVE

Edited January 29, 2020 by Jetboot Jack

[LoTonah]

Yes, what Jetboot Jack said.  I really enjoy your work, taking the simple VCS graphics and giving them a proper C64 treatment... lots of little details and embellishments!  Looks wonderful.  😁

[LoTonah]

16 hours ago, patjomki said:

People who are interested in C64 conversions visit there. I'd appreciate if you do not post OT stuff here.

Geez, just skip over it if you don't like it.  Computer purists are boring.  Seems like you're in the minority here.

[R0ger]

It's remake of Atari game, so of course it's not off-topic. Random C64 release would be.

Edited January 29, 2020 by R0ger

[STE'86]

as I said previously, the source code for this will be available when released as are the other 2600 to c64 conversions we have done already. Chopper Command, Keystone Kapers and Frostbite.

 

these are afterall 2600 games so converting the display code graphics to a8 from c64 should not be an immense task. the hard work of game logic has already been completed.

 

perhaps even Emkay who vociferously tells everyone else on here how to code their game displays ad-nauseam could get off his arse and do something useful instead of just telling everyone they are doing it wrong?

[carlsson]

Is the display code different for each game you have ported, or somehow mimicing the 2600 so porting it once would allow for all games at the same time?

[STE'86]

no each game is unique and converted from the ground up with no "emulation". the 2600 is so unique in its display method that it would be impossible to do that. The c64 and atari a8 however are not a million miles apart regard their display resolutions etc. and there isnt that much graphic data to convert as these graphics fit into a 2600 cart

 

[STE'86]

this is what the screen looks like without all the "smoke and mirrors" colour rastersplits

[carlsson]

I believe that is what they call "catfishing" in the world of online dating.

[Mclaneinc]

Just seen its released Ste, very nice indeed...Will be giving it a proper bash later on..Thank you to you and the team..