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4 hours ago, leech said:

I can't seem to find the hard drive installable version of Ultima V anywhere...

I'll look through my archives and see what I can find. Seems like I've got something,

somewhere, although I'm sure a lot of the files are for those danged emulators. :)

 

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9 hours ago, DarkLord said:

What about the hard drive adapted versions for the Atari ST? Does MIDI work okay with those?

 

If so, that would seem to fit your criteria....

 

I didn't know such a thing exists..   I thought only Ultima VI was HD installable on ST?

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1 hour ago, zzip said:

I didn't know such a thing exists..   I thought only Ultima VI was HD installable on ST?

Stock/from the factory, yes. Fortunately, some very gifted and talented individuals have

given the time and effort to modify a ton of games to run from HD as well as later TOS

versions and RAM combinations.

 

Here are a couple of links - unabashedly browse to thy hearts content!:

 

http://www.8bitchip.info/atari/

 

https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/games/dbug/dbug1.htm

 

https://demozoo.org/groups/2172/

 

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6 minutes ago, DarkLord said:

Stock/from the factory, yes. Fortunately, some very gifted and talented individuals have

given the time and effort to modify a ton of games to run from HD as well as later TOS

versions and RAM combinations.

 

Here are a couple of links - unabashedly browse to thy hearts content!:

 

http://www.8bitchip.info/atari/

 

https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/games/dbug/dbug1.htm

 

https://demozoo.org/groups/2172/

 

Ah, I haven't checked demozoo, but thought it odd that ppera's sute has U3, U4 and U6... seeing as how U6 can already be installed.

Now I am waiting for a cable that hopefully works with my 1084S D1 monitor, so I can output the normal sound to that, while my MIDI goes to my stereo.

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Oh, a quick note.  From what I could find, to switch the MT32 into Channel 1-8 mode, you hold down Master and press 5, then press 1 and the channels become 1-8.  Though I still couldn't get U3 to output to it (from ppera's HD install).

I really don't want to hack apart my 1040STe's case to put in a gotek, I should see about using the external floppy connector...

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23 hours ago, DarkLord said:

Stock/from the factory, yes. Fortunately, some very gifted and talented individuals have

given the time and effort to modify a ton of games to run from HD as well as later TOS

versions and RAM combinations.

 

Here are a couple of links - unabashedly browse to thy hearts content!:

 

http://www.8bitchip.info/atari/

 

https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/games/dbug/dbug1.htm

 

https://demozoo.org/groups/2172/

 

Thanks!  I will check these out

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Argh, like I thought - all the Ultima V files I had stuck away in an archive

are for emulators, or MSA'ed up to give 2 floppy disks like the originals.

 

 :(

 

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I sent a PM to PPera. It looks like he's going to do the conversion.

 

He was asking about copy protection - the only thing I remember is

the first disk, you could copy the Play disk, IIRC and I don't remember

anything else?

 

Thanks.

 

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8 hours ago, leech said:

https://ataricrypt.blogspot.com/2018/12/ultima-v-warriors-of-destiny.html

Says that Atari Legend made a hdd patched version, but I'm not sure if you have to log in first on that page to get access to downloads, or what, because I'm not seeing it.  Trying to create an account, but my email is deciding to load slowly now of all times...

 

I couldn't find a way to download it either...  :(

 

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38 minutes ago, DarkLord said:

I sent a PM to PPera. It looks like he's going to do the conversion.

 

He was asking about copy protection - the only thing I remember is

the first disk, you could copy the Play disk, IIRC and I don't remember

anything else?

 

Thanks.

 

Nice!  Uhm, I never played it on the ST, so not sure.  I just know of the aforementioned tracks on the Britannia disk for U4 on the 8bit.  Hopefully it doesn't have one of those genius ones like Dungeon Master or Alternate Reality.

Cool that he said he would do it.  He modified OIDs for me to add JagPad support.  I need to play that more ha.

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Sorry to revive and old thread.

I'm dusting off a STacy and I was thinking of getting Ultima installed and outputting MIDI music.  I think it would be pretty easy to buy a Sound Canvas off ebay or something but has anyone installed a software package lite FluidSynth to a Raspberry PI and then piped the ST's MIDI into that for music?

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5 hours ago, FastRobPlus said:

Sorry to revive and old thread.

I'm dusting off a STacy and I was thinking of getting Ultima installed and outputting MIDI music.  I think it would be pretty easy to buy a Sound Canvas off ebay or something but has anyone installed a software package lite FluidSynth to a Raspberry PI and then piped the ST's MIDI into that for music?

 

Hope that helps.

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Yes, and that wasn't quite clear. I was just trying to show the differences between FluidSynth and MUNT so that you could see how they sound to see which one you wanted to try on the Rpi before dropping some cash on real hardware. The use on the MiSTer was just the platform those two MIDI synthesiser were played on. I don't have my ST & Falcon out right now (no room) but I had planned to choose one of the Rpi Midi solutions so that I could do the very same thing you're doing. It's an awesome feature that I wish more devs had done back in the day but with the cost of the hardware, it's a shame that only a couple years after release of the ST chips like the Yamaha YM3812 were available that produced way better sounds than the ST's Yamaha YM2149F.

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15 hours ago, FastRobPlus said:

Sorry to revive and old thread.

I'm dusting off a STacy and I was thinking of getting Ultima installed and outputting MIDI music.  I think it would be pretty easy to buy a Sound Canvas off ebay or something but has anyone installed a software package lite FluidSynth to a Raspberry PI and then piped the ST's MIDI into that for music?

It should work.  I've played with fluidsynth as a synth for ST locally, and it worked fine.     Just as long as ALSA or Jack is configured properly to connect fluidsynth to MIDI-in

 

My only word of warning is I've tried various cheap USB <-> MIDI cables, and found they have timing issues that can mess up the music.   Pretty sure it's the cables at fault since I tried them with multiple devices and OSes.  What were you planning to use to connect the Pi to the ST?

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1 hour ago, zzip said:

It should work.  I've played with fluidsynth as a synth for ST locally, and it worked fine.     Just as long as ALSA or Jack is configured properly to connect fluidsynth to MIDI-in

 

My only word of warning is I've tried various cheap USB <-> MIDI cables, and found they have timing issues that can mess up the music.   Pretty sure it's the cables at fault since I tried them with multiple devices and OSes.  What were you planning to use to connect the Pi to the ST?

Ha, the first USB MIDI cable I bought would literally cause my desktop PC to not boot (it caused some weird issue at the UEFI level, so if I left it plugged it the system would lock up.  If I plugged it in afterwards it would sort of work...)  I eventually bought a proper Roland usb adapter.

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7 hours ago, zzip said:

It should work.  I've played with fluidsynth as a synth for ST locally, and it worked fine.     Just as long as ALSA or Jack is configured properly to connect fluidsynth to MIDI-in

 

My only word of warning is I've tried various cheap USB <-> MIDI cables, and found they have timing issues that can mess up the music.   Pretty sure it's the cables at fault since I tried them with multiple devices and OSes.  What were you planning to use to connect the Pi to the ST?

This is something I'm wondering myself...  I have no plan yet on how to even construct a Pi with a MIDI import but I just like the idea so want to understand what's been done by others.

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On 9/18/2020 at 5:30 PM, FastRobPlus said:

This is something I'm wondering myself...  I have no plan yet on how to even construct a Pi with a MIDI import but I just like the idea so want to understand what's been done by others.

I do plan on testing it myself,  but I'm likely to skip the physical midi cables and go with some kind of virtual midi.   The midi keyboard I have now does midi over USB,  I run Atari ST & Dos under emulation, etc.   So to convert the midi output to use physical MIDI cables only to convert back to USB is likely asking for trouble.   But I'm not 100% sure you can do a direct USB<->USB with a Pi and what kind of cabling it requires (USB OTG?).   I have to do more research. 

 

EDIT: actually it is straightforward to connect to my keyboard over USB,  but I'm not sure how to connect it to a PC

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