mr_gw454 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I am having issues getting TERM80 to load/run correctly. I am using a TIPI in a PEB and have the TERM80 folder mounted as DSK1. I do not have an F18A adapter. Stock (composite) video. I am using the utility Force Command and do a 'load LOAD' (as it looks like LOAD is the loader program on the disk needed to start TERM80). Initially, all I saw was this: ... then pressed a key (can't recall which one) and saw this: I could hit keys and the screen would update, but could not make heads or tails of anything. Rebooting the TI and reloading TERM80 (using the same method) got me back to the blank screen. From there, I hit some keys again and got this: At this point, I guess I have no idea what I'm doing. Can anyone provide any assistance? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gw454 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) OK, got a bit further. Realizing the the LOAD program is a BASIC program. I discovered this when booting with Extended Basic Plus and it auto loaded and ran it. I now get the TERM80 initial text menu, where option 1 should load the main program. I get an ERROR in LINE 191 where it tried to CALL LOAD ("XBLOAD/O"). It looks like the file is saved as XBLOAD@O on the file system so perhaps it's not finding it? I did use TI99Dir to extract files from the original TERM80.DSK image. Perhaps it's extracted the name incorrectly for that file? Still not sure if there's a proper way to do this using the TIPI. I know programs need to be in TIFILES compatible format. I did use TI99Dir to convert all PROGRAM files to TIFILES format before copying to the TIPI. In any case, I would still appreciate some assistance for anyone who's using TERM80 on a TIPI. Thanks! Edited February 16, 2020 by mr_gw454 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Rename that file to the correct name on the TI Sent from my LM-G820 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Was the source code to Term80 ever released? I know ZT4 code is out there, I don't recall ever seeing the term80 package. I'd like to see if I can get it running on a nanopeb with my unmodified console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 that would be great Tim maybe we can find Jeffrey Brown and see if he still has the disks Greg PS: here's the working with TIPI copy with all the files renamed properly (ONLY WORKS WITH RS232) TERM80.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gw454 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Hi Greg, It's amazing how well things work when files are named correctly. Thank you again for all your help on this. I'm now online with thekeep.net using my ESP8266 WiFi adapter with a NULL modem adapter. Edited February 16, 2020 by mr_gw454 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Thanks Greg, worked here on TIPI and my F18A console. I was reading the docs and came across this snip from the author. Pretty amazing. "Who wrote this fabulous program? Term 80 was programmed by myself (duh!), Jeff Brown, in Ottawa, Ontario (Canada) on my TI computer. I'm only 15 at this moment, but I started it 11 months ago (at the end of August, '94). I'm going to be starting 10th grade this September (god knows how boring that will be. <sigh>), but I have receive special permission to enter the 12th grade computer couse (C)." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 found this after a little googling.. http://striker.interhact.net/ti99/user groups/OTIUG/ottawa-1995-02.pdf and http://striker.interhact.net/ti99/articles/reviews/12MIC95.TXT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 1:58 PM, InsaneMultitasker said: Thanks Greg, worked here on TIPI and my F18A console. I was reading the docs and came across this snip from the author. Pretty amazing. "Who wrote this fabulous program? Term 80 was programmed by myself (duh!), Jeff Brown, in Ottawa, Ontario (Canada) on my TI computer. I'm only 15 at this moment, but I started it 11 months ago (at the end of August, '94). I'm going to be starting 10th grade this September (god knows how boring that will be. <sigh>), but I have receive special permission to enter the 12th grade computer couse (C)." I actually bought Term 80 from Jeff in 1997 I believe, but the disks apparently got lost in the mail as they I never received them and Jeff was not terribly interested in sending another set. I did not pursue the matter at the time. I did meet him at one the Chicago TI Faires maybe a decade later and he had come in dressed in a full Scottish kilt. Interesting fellow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 11:00 AM, arcadeshopper said: PS: here's the working with TIPI copy with all the files renamed properly (ONLY WORKS WITH RS232) TERM80.zip 170.42 kB · 23 downloads From the title of the thread I was getting excited, thanks for posting the clarification, you saved me a lot of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 So this prompted me to dig out my old 2400bps modem and test out Term 80 with the TIPI. It works just fine, but it looks like there is an issue connecting via dialup to The Keep. There is this weird line about registration and then the bbs hangs. Same thing with TIMXT. The modem works fine with another BBS, so it's not the problem. Incidentally, the Hidden Reef is not answering. Is it still up? I have not connected to it in years. Come to think of it, I have not heard from Richard Bell for some time either... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Vorticon said: I actually bought Term 80 from Jeff in 1997 I believe, but the disks apparently got lost in the mail as they I never received them and Jeff was not terribly interested in sending another set. I did not pursue the matter at the time. I did meet him at one the Chicago TI Faires maybe a decade later and he had come in dressed in a full Scottish kilt. Interesting fellow... I remember that year. My other half quipped at the time that she thought Hal was the only person allowed to wear shorts or similar leg-baring clothing at the near-winter Chicago Faires. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 So this prompted me to dig out my old 2400bps modem and test out Term 80 with the TIPI. It works just fine, but it looks like there is an issue connecting via dialup to The Keep. There is this weird line about registration and then the bbs hangs. Same thing with TIMXT. The modem works fine with another BBS, so it's not the problem. Incidentally, the Hidden Reef is not answering. Is it still up? I have not connected to it in years. Come to think of it, I have not heard from Richard Bell for some time either...I'll check it out.. have to hook up a modemRichard's bbs was up a few days ago the last time I tried. I'll send him a emailGregSent from my LM-V600 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 7:43 AM, Vorticon said: So this prompted me to dig out my old 2400bps modem and test out Term 80 with the TIPI. It works just fine, but it looks like there is an issue connecting via dialup to The Keep. There is this weird line about registration and then the bbs hangs. Same thing with TIMXT. The modem works fine with another BBS, so it's not the problem. Incidentally, the Hidden Reef is not answering. Is it still up? I have not connected to it in years. Come to think of it, I have not heard from Richard Bell for some time either... its back up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 8 hours ago, arcadeshopper said: its back up! Nope... Still the same issue for The Keep. And yes, the Hidden Reef is indeed back up. One of the very few BBS'ses still on a land line exclusively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Vorticon said: Nope... Still the same issue for The Keep. And yes, the Hidden Reef is indeed back up. One of the very few BBS'ses still on a land line exclusively. looks like an ANSI bug.. so can you type your username at that prompt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, arcadeshopper said: looks like an ANSI bug.. so can you type your username at that prompt? No. No keyboard response at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 try saying no to the ansi prompt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Yes that worked with both Term 80 and TIMXT. So at least we know where the problem lies. Any possible fixes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Yes that worked with both Term 80 and TIMXT. So at least we know where the problem lies. Any possible fixes?Depends on what code it is I'll take a look here this weekend in the meantime you can type =a to toggle ANSI once you're on the BBS Sent from my LM-V600 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Seems strange an ANSI sequence would cause this but not out of the realm of possibility. Both Term80 and TIMXT do have some boundary checking so this would have to be a peculiar command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I very much want to say I've logged in with TIMXT many times to the bbs with no issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, arcadeshopper said: I very much want to say I've logged in with TIMXT many times to the bbs with no issues Me too, but only via telnet. I'm trying to access the BBS via dialup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Me too, but only via telnet. I'm trying to access the BBS via dialup.Yes I used a wifimodem with it which should be identical to using a modemSent from my LM-V600 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I'm logging in with wifi modem fineSent from my LM-V600 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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