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Why is astro chase 2600 not dumped? A proto is known to exist and so is the ROM. Heck, there is even a screenshot so, why is it not dumped (quote from atarimania 

The VCS version of this game was announced and advertised, but never released. The ROM is known to exist.)

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That means that a private collector has it and does not wish to share it at this time. He may think that the value of his cartridge would be reduced if the ROM was released, he may have plans to release it in cartridge form or many other variables. Also, First Star Software is still around so there could be legal issues with releasing even just the ROM.

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I believe First Star Software's IP owner Mean Hamster Software has told the prototype owner that they cannot release the prototype rom under any circumstances.  That's my understanding anyway,

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5 hours ago, Tempest said:

I believe First Star Software's IP owner Mean Hamster Software has told the prototype owner that they cannot release the prototype rom under any circumstances.  That's my understanding anyway,

 

So does MHS own the rights to the 2600 version of Astro Chase or to the entire Astro Chase IP as a whole? 

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8 hours ago, Tempest said:

I believe First Star Software's IP owner Mean Hamster Software has told the prototype owner that they cannot release the prototype rom under any circumstances.  That's my understanding anyway,

The owner has changed to BBG Entertainment. 

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As of January 1, 2018 the First Star Software name and website are owned by BBG Entertainment GmbH which also purchased all intellectual property rights pertaining to Astro Chase™, BOiNG!™, Boulder Dash®, Bristles™, Flip & Flop™, Millemium Warriors™, Omnicron Conspiracy™, Panic Button™, Rent Wars™ and Security Alert™.

Maybe that opens new possibilities like it does for Boulder Dash?

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32 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:

The owner has changed to BBG Entertainment. 

Maybe that opens new possibilities like it does for Boulder Dash?

 

I thought that was the case as well but left open the idea that maybe Astro Chase didn't go with the rest of the IPs to the new owners in Europe.

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Go ahead Tom....you know you wanna.....lol

I wouldn't be surprised if you already have it coded, just waiting....

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Why would First Star want to keep it hidden when they've made nothing but boulder dash updates since 2004? Maybe a repro for $10 would entice them to release the game? 

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2 hours ago, Irvingnator said:

Why would First Star want to keep it hidden when they've made nothing but boulder dash updates since 2004? Maybe a repro for $10 would entice them to release the game? 

No idea, that's just what I was told.

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The person who has the proto isn’t the only source for that rom data anyhow. Just run the tables with all the programmers that worked at Parker Brothers.

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1 hour ago, Supergun said:

The person who has the proto isn’t the only source for that rom data anyhow. Just run the tables with all the programmers that worked at Parker Brothers.

You're basing this on what now?

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On 2/17/2020 at 5:44 PM, Supergun said:

The person who has the proto isn’t the only source for that rom data anyhow. Just run the tables with all the programmers that worked at Parker Brothers.

More than half of the games published by Parker Brothers across all platforms were developed by outside contractors.  The programmer of Astro Chase was commissioned by First Star to do the port, not by Parker Brothers, and the only known prototype is housed in a Telesys cartridge shell.  It's not likely that anyone inside Parker would have ever had access to this ROM, but if so they probably would not have been one of the programmers.

I'm not even convinced that Parker Brothers would have published the VCS version as opposed to First Star simply releasing it themselves had it actually come out as planned.  First Star published Boing, so they certainly had the distribution channels available for producing VCS titles.

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13 minutes ago, Psionic said:

I'm not even convinced that Parker Brothers would have published the VCS version as opposed to First Star simply releasing it themselves had it actually come out as planned.  First Star published Boing, so they certainly had the distribution channels available for producing VCS titles.

I think you're right on that.

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looks like an apple iie color monitor game, not vcs- wow!  lets track it down!!

 

astrochase_1.png

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you know i bet those shots are NOT from vcs vers- didnt many boxes use different screenshot examples that didnt necessarily match, etc

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7 hours ago, chewy said:

who took the screenshots and chip pics for atariprotos site?

Huh?  The screenshot you posted is the 5200 version.  The 2600 port has not been reviewed on AtariProtos.

 

7 hours ago, chewy said:

you know i bet those shots are NOT from vcs vers- didnt many boxes use different screenshot examples that didnt necessarily match, etc

The Atarimania database has emulator screen grabs of the VCS version.  They weren't taken from a box.

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Those are indeed screenshots from the 2600 version on Atarimania.  I have no idea where they came from though.  There's only one prototype that I know of, but maybe another was discovered?  

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