Intelligentleman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, BiffMan said: Yep, definitely better as player 2. I don't have any particular issue losing enemies in the earth, but can see where that would be a distraction. It is quite awesome looking for the era. I really like certain aspects of the graphics. I do wish, however, that the ship was a little more detailed. And that the after burners during the boss transition would work more consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player One Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BiffMan said: I've had it twice in emulation, both times near the boss, once immediately after destruction, not sure when the other was. I also think it has something to do with moving during transitions, so have avoided doing so. So frustrating!!!! I've had it happen three or four times in the last week and a half. I thought it happened to me in the middle of the boss stage last night? Edited March 19, 2020 by Player One 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intelligentleman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9947 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpisacane Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 So frustrating!!!! I've had it happen three or four times in the last week and a half. I thought it happened to me in the middle of the boss stage last night?I'm surprised that more people aren't complaining about the black screen crash. I tested that out exhaustively two seasons ago and had it happen on every single one of my Intellivisions and on Nostalgia. I tried several different carts and the LTO Flash, as well. It makes playing the game so nerve-racking for me, as I never know when the game is just going to stop, go blank and force me to start over... [emoji26] Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player One Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 23656 Screen froze! Edited March 21, 2020 by Player One 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player One Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, dpisacane said: I'm surprised that more people aren't complaining about the black screen crash. I tested that out exhaustively two seasons ago and had it happened on every single one of my Intellivisions and on Nostalgia. I tried several different carts and the LTO Flash, as well. It makes playing the game so nerve-racking for me, as I never know when the game is just going to stop, go blank and force me to start over... Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Definitely a bug of the game. They talk about it in the review of Demon Attack in the Intarivisions podcast. It was known to the programmer but he couldn't find a solution. Edited March 20, 2020 by Player One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intelligentleman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The weird thing is, I've never encountered it myself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Never happened to me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpisacane Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 That just seems unbelievable to me, as it happens to me 100% of the time unless I actively manage the situation (meaning, primarily, my extra lives). I'm not saying that I don't believe you, it's just difficult for me to wrap my mind around, given my experience.I wonder if it has anything to do with using autofire. (I use the autofire all the time when I am playing, since I have serious tendonitis in both hands.)Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, dpisacane said: That just seems unbelievable to me, as it happens to me 100% of the time unless I actively manage the situation (meaning, primarily, my extra lives). I'm not saying that I don't believe you, it's just difficult for me to wrap my mind around, given my experience. I wonder if it has anything to do with using autofire. (I use the autofire all the time when I am playing, since I have serious tendonitis in both hands.) Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk I use autofire all the time too, still never happened. I've had other carts (different games) in the past freeze during gameplay and once I get a new cart, the game worked flawlessly. Maybe your specific cart is defective? Edited March 20, 2020 by IntyFanMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpisacane Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I use autofire all the time too, still never happened. I've had other carts (different games) in the past freeze during gameplay and once I get a new cart, the game worked flawlessly. Maybe your specific cart is defective?That's definitely not it. As I said, I tested it out with a dozen different cartridges (and the LTO Flash) on a 2609, a 2609a, a Tandyvision, a GTE Sylvania model, two different Intellivision IIs, a Super Video Arcade and in Nostalgia. It happened in every single case. I was absolutely exhaustive in my investigation, as I was curious what the cause was. The only conclusion I could come to was that it is a bug in the code. What I can't figure out is why some other people don't experience it. I will say that I don't think I happens unless you are near the end of the second wave (the second Pandemonium) and have not yet died. That's not to say that it doesn't happen on all sorts of different circumstances, but I have never seen it happen in the first one. It's just very strange... All the more so, since some people don't encounter it at all. (Also, keep in mind, it isn't a typical Intellivision game freeze. The game crashes and the screen goes black. It's quite unique to this game, actually.) Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, dpisacane said: That's definitely not it. As I said, I tested it out with a dozen different cartridges (and the LTO Flash) on a 2609, a 2609a, a Tandyvision, a GTE Sylvania model, two different Intellivision IIs, a Super Video Arcade and in Nostalgia. It happened in every single case. I was absolutely exhaustive in my investigation, as I was curious what the cause was. The only conclusion I could come to was that it is a bug in the code. What I can't figure out is why some other people don't experience it. I will say that I don't think I happens unless you are near the end of the second wave (the second Pandemonium) and have not yet died. That's not to say that it doesn't happen on all sorts of different circumstances, but I have never seen it happen in the first one. It's just very strange... All the more so, since some people don't encounter it at all. (Also, keep in mind, it isn't a typical Intellivision game freeze. That game crashes and the screen goes black. It's quite unique to this game, actually.) Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Ok. Yeah that is very odd. I'm at a loss on that one then. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intelligentleman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 People have encountered this in emulation, too, so that's another indication that it's the code itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intelligentleman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Yass! Finally broke 10k. I think this might be it for me on this one. It actually takes a fair bit of time and concentration for me to reach these scores. Edited March 20, 2020 by Intelligentleman 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 40,403 ? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intelligentleman Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Nice one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 12 hours ago, dpisacane said: I'm surprised that more people aren't complaining about the black screen crash. It's never happened to me, but in my defense I don't think I'm good enough ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gezkc Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 hours ago, BiffMan said: 40,403 ? Wow! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 14 hours ago, BiffMan said: 40,403 ? Holy crap! I’m thinking it is easier in emulation than on real hardware, but that’s an amazing score! You have to have some real patience to get to that level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player One Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 29353 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, IntyFanMatt said: Holy crap! I’m thinking it is easier in emulation than on real hardware, but that’s an amazing score! You have to have some real patience to get to that level. I'm using a Flashback controller, so closest I can get. Definitely hard on the thumb for the fire button. I do vastly prefer holding the thumb button for autofire when necessary vs always autofire. Patience indeed! That was probably a 40+ minute game and it gets really hard to maintain focus that whole time. I can 'feel' when I'm engaged or not, so sometimes I just have to come back another day, but when you're locked in, it feels like you could play forever. That was finally a satisfying score where I didn't do something overly stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Player One said: 29353 Awesome score, congrats! Glad you managed to have a good run without it locking up on you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, BiffMan said: I'm using a Flashback controller, so closest I can get. Definitely hard on the thumb for the fire button. I do vastly prefer holding the thumb button for autofire when necessary vs always autofire. Patience indeed! That was probably a 40+ minute game and it gets really hard to maintain focus that whole time. I can 'feel' when I'm engaged or not, so sometimes I just have to come back another day, but when you're locked in, it feels like you could play forever. That was finally a satisfying score where I didn't do something overly stupid. Well that’s just amazing. Well done sir! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player One Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, BiffMan said: I'm using a Flashback controller, so closest I can get. Definitely hard on the thumb for the fire button. I do vastly prefer holding the thumb button for autofire when necessary vs always autofire. Patience indeed! That was probably a 40+ minute game and it gets really hard to maintain focus that whole time. I can 'feel' when I'm engaged or not, so sometimes I just have to come back another day, but when you're locked in, it feels like you could play forever. That was finally a satisfying score where I didn't do something overly stupid. I was wondering which controller you were using. I tried playing in emulation with a modern controller but didn't like it. Agree about focus.... I make some easy mistakes sometimes, but try not to let it get to me.... too much Edited March 21, 2020 by Player One 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gezkc Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) This game is starting to annoy me. It's now crashed 3 times on my original Intellivision. Twice just after destroying the mother ship and once at 9,900 pts when I was right in the middle of a wave of demons, hadn't lost a single life, and the screen just went blank and the game stopped. This is the best I've managed so far - the game crashed just after destroying the mother ship (I wasn't pressing anything on the controller so I don't know why) : 27,308 Edited March 21, 2020 by gezkc 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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