mr_me Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, fakecortex said: This is a tough game to play with a keyboard! (Too many buttons for a modern controller to feel right). It really takes advantage of the Intellivision controller for sure. I mapped out my keyboard to best resemble the keypad and it's gonna take some practice... I suggest using a modern controller. Map the right analog stick to the intellivision disc. Map the dpad to the intellivision keypad 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9. Map kp5 to any button you like. You can actually get a competitive edge over an intellivision controller. ------------ With cartridges that use standard exec speeds, as deadly discs does, speed one is 25% slower, and speed three is half the speed. The games aren't any easier since Tron and his disc also moves slower. Nothing else in the game changes. Edited March 24, 2020 by mr_me 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakecortex Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 10 hours ago, mr_me said: I suggest using a modern controller. Map the right analog stick to the intellivision disc. Map the dpad to the intellivision keypad 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9. Map kp5 to any button you like. You can actually get a competitive edge over an intellivision controller. Hmm. I'm using OpenEmu and a PS3 controller and unfortunately it won't let me map the diagonals on the dpad or analog stick. For running, I still have 8 directional movement, but not for shooting. So I've been using the shoulder buttons for the diagonals, but I rarely end up using them. Slight improvement of score... 6,850 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1,673,450 Speed 1, in the spirit of the contest. ? Old school, with just a Flashback controller, no 2-handed stuff. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gezkc Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I can't believe I've never played this before - what a fantastic game! ? I'm not very good but here's a score to put up on the board: 12,950 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, gezkc said: I can't believe I've never played this before - what a fantastic game! ? I'm not very good but here's a score to put up on the board: 12,950 Surprised you never played it before too! ? It's known as one of the best games on the system. Simple set up, challenging arcade fun! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, gezkc said: I can't believe I've never played this before - what a fantastic game! ? I'm not very good but here's a score to put up on the board: 12,950 Very glad you're giving it a try! Once you get into a groove, it's a completely delightful game. The variety of later enemies is great and the difficulty progression is top notch. In the midst of all that goodness, is one single, brilliant game design decision: no extra lives!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gezkc Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 One thing I can't manage to do in this game is to hit the eye of the Recognizer. It says you have to hit it from the side or above, but it just seems to bounce of it for me. ? Does anyone have any tips on how to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, gezkc said: One thing I can't manage to do in this game is to hit the eye of the Recognizer. It says you have to hit it from the side or above, but it just seems to bounce of it for me. ? Does anyone have any tips on how to do this? Even if you're exactly online, you still have to get lucky because that little "bar" on the side of its eye area will move up and down and randomly block you. There are two landmarks to use for the "high" and "low" positions relative to your character, have you figured the positioning out? I know others can hit diagonals, but I've always gone with the side hits since I can position more consistently there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, gezkc said: One thing I can't manage to do in this game is to hit the eye of the Recognizer. It says you have to hit it from the side or above, but it just seems to bounce of it for me. ? Does anyone have any tips on how to do this? And you can only hit the eye when it turns white! Stand with your toes directly on top of the line above where the recognizer stops. You can also hit it from the center of the line above it or from either side from the line above it in the middle of the line, by firing the disc at a diagonal. Confusing,I know and hard to explain. Edited March 24, 2020 by wolfy62 Adding info. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, gezkc said: One thing I can't manage to do in this game is to hit the eye of the Recognizer. It says you have to hit it from the side or above, but it just seems to bounce of it for me. ? Does anyone have any tips on how to do this? It's best to hit the eye from the side from a particular position. Watch the world record holder of this game in the video below, he will show you exactly how it's done. Enjoy... Edited March 24, 2020 by IntyFanMatt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, fakecortex said: Hmm. I'm using OpenEmu and a PS3 controller and unfortunately it won't let me map the diagonals on the dpad or analog stick. For running, I still have 8 directional movement, but not for shooting. So I've been using the shoulder buttons for the diagonals, but I rarely end up using them. Slight improvement of score... 6,850 I think openemu uses the Bliss emulator. Mame doesn't let you map dpad diagonals to buttons either. Jzintv is the only one that does. If you don't want to use the jzintv emulator, you can get a joystick to keyboard map utility like Joytokey (for Windows). The computer keyboard is already mapped to the intellivision keypad, so use the utility yo map your dpad to the corresponding keyboard keys. Edited March 24, 2020 by mr_me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, mr_me said: I think openemu uses the Bliss emulator. Mame doesn't let you map dpad diagonals to buttons either. Jzintv is the only one that does. Nostalgia also supports diagonal controls. I've never been able to figure out how to configure Jzintv. Or rather couldn't be bothered to spend the time to figure it out. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 When you have a playstation or xbox style controller, the dpad becomes a pov hat. Nostalgia can't map the pov hat at all; so the dpad can't be used at all with these type of controllers. Here's how it's done in jzintv. JS0_HAT0_NW PD0L_KP1 JS0_HAT0_N PD0L_KP2 JS0_HAT0_NE PD0L_KP3 JS0_HAT0_W PD0L_KP4 JS0_HAT0_E PD0L_KP6 JS0_HAT0_SW PD0L_KP7 JS0_HAT0_S PD0L_KP8 JS0_HAT0_SE PD0L_KP9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 1128600 disc speed, mame, intellivision controller One of the things I like about this game is that you only have one life, So as long as you're alive, it's a potential high score. Edited March 24, 2020 by mr_me 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, IntyFanMatt said: It's best to hit the eye from the side from a particular position. Watch the world record holder of this game in the video below, he will show you exactly how it's done. Enjoy... Thanks Matt,now I am shooting for the world record! ? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 2,996,600 Disc speed Definitely in my top 3 favorite Intellivision games Edited March 25, 2020 by IntyFanMatt 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, IntyFanMatt said: 2,996,600 Disc speed Definitely in my top 3 favorite Intellivision games Holy crap! Congrats! Better than the current HSC record! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BiffMan said: Holy crap! Congrats! Better than the current HSC record! Thanks man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gezkc Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 hours ago, IntyFanMatt said: 2,996,600 Disc speed Definitely in my top 3 favorite Intellivision games Wow! Incredible score! For those of you who are good at this game and playing on original hardware, do you play it using two controllers like they suggest in the manual, or one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) If you look at the video of the 11M+ score he's obviously using one controller. Having the ability to run and shoot at the same time definitely makes it easier to get the orange guards. Myself, I've never really tried the two controller technique, it calls for lots of practice. I have tried crossmapping in emulation but I don't like using thumbsticks, I prefer the intellivision controller. A few people have the "dual action intellivision controller", don't know if anyone here does. Edited March 25, 2020 by mr_me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, gezkc said: Wow! Incredible score! For those of you who are good at this game and playing on original hardware, do you play it using two controllers like they suggest in the manual, or one? Thank you! I’ve always used one controller. To me, it’s too hard to handle two controllers, I just don’t have the dexterity to do it. Edited March 25, 2020 by IntyFanMatt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 hours ago, gezkc said: For those of you who are good at this game and playing on original hardware, do you play it using two controllers like they suggest in the manual, or one? I prefer one controller because it makes me more deliberate and tactical in my play, seems to help with focus. Getting good scores isn't about running and gunning, it's about being smart, blocking disks or waiting till an enemy's disk is way across the map. Besides, thematically I always like to imagine that slight pause before throwing is my character setting his feet to make a throw. Very cinematic. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gezkc Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) I've been trying using one controller and two controllers, and to be honest I'm not sure which I prefer yet - I'm crap both ways! ? The consensus seems to be to use one though, so I'll give that a go. I've got the the hang of hitting the Recognizer now, but still can't manage to block disks coming at me. It means my games don't last very long as I get killed pretty early on! I never got into Tron back in the day (the films or the games), so I'm glad this has given me a chance to try this game out. I can see why people really rate it. Edited March 25, 2020 by gezkc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, gezkc said: I've been trying using one controller and two controllers, and to be honest I'm not sure which I prefer yet - I'm crap both ways! ? The consensus seems to be to use one though, so I'll give that a go. I've got the the hang of hitting the Recognizer now, but still can't manage to block disks coming at me. It means my games don't last very long as I get killed pretty early on! I never got into Tron back in the day (the films or the games), so I'm glad this has given me a chance to try this game out. I can see why people really rate it. It can be hard to block discs. If you stand in a doorway, it makes it a bit easier, especially with the white disc that follows you. But the best thing is to just avoid them, then attack when your enemies are "disc-less". This game kicks ass!! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffMan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, IntyFanMatt said: But the best thing is to just avoid them, then attack when your enemies are "disc-less". This game kicks ass!! ? Agreed, that's always best. Most of my early deaths come from being cocky and rushing a dude who still has his disk. As an aside, isnt the sound of a dying recognizer the best thing ever? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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