Super-Genius! #1 Posted July 18, 2003 Shamus II is now available on cartridge. It is available on the Sunmark website: http://www.sunmark.com The "pause" bug has also been fixed in the cartridge version. Click here for a larger image. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krawhitham #2 Posted July 18, 2003 who owns the rights to Shamus ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cx2k #3 Posted July 18, 2003 Sunmark???? John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkman #4 Posted July 18, 2003 Who owns the rights? ha! Honestly, that comment/topic is getting a little old. Anyway, cart sure looks nice! Who designed that cool lable? -darkman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan #5 Posted July 18, 2003 Who owns the rights? ha! Honestly, that comment/topic is getting a little old. Go look at other posts by krawhitham. That's pretty much all he ever says. Anyway, cart sure looks nice! Who designed that cool lable? -darkman That "S" sure looks like Trogdor (www.homestarrunner.com), doesn't it! -Bry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkman #6 Posted July 18, 2003 Yes, Trogdor! The Burninator! Inspired by... Draw and "S," now draw a more different "S." -darkman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan #7 Posted July 18, 2003 Consummate V's! -Bry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkman #8 Posted July 18, 2003 I said Consummate! So, I guess the secret is out. Trouth be known, I designed the graphic for the cart. I wanted to make a more different "S," so I listened/watched Strongbads easy to fallow instructions, he makes drawing fun! -darkman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goochman #9 Posted July 18, 2003 Is Shamus II that big that it requires a Megacart? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan #10 Posted July 18, 2003 And the Shamus comes in the niiiiiiiight! -Bry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetboot Jack #11 Posted July 18, 2003 Wasn't it Shamus Case II?!?!?!?!?! sTeVE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan #12 Posted July 18, 2003 Wasn't it Shamus Case II?!?!?!?!?! sTeVE Yeah, I think you're right. -Bry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #13 Posted July 18, 2003 Yes it was. I never played it because it was only available ondisk (and possibly tape). Of course I never beat the first Shamus so I wouldn't want to start a second one anyway. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goochman #14 Posted July 18, 2003 I couldnt beat #1 but #2 is beatable - there is a map built for you on #2 #1 is still the best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
video game addict #15 Posted July 18, 2003 Is Shamus II that big that it requires a Megacart? I think the whole "Megacart" thing is more about cross compatibility of systems, and having on board RAM incase your system didn't have enough to run it. I think anyway. So games that originally required 48K will now run on a 400 or 600XL. I don't believe Shamus II would need extra ram, but wasn't it also a 400/800 only title? Now it will play on XL/XEs I like the label design too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andylama #16 Posted July 18, 2003 Personally, I liked "Case II" a LOT more than the original. IMO, the original has a sort of "classic" air about it, but it is SO simplistic, and for me, it gets old FAST. Case II is very dynamic by comparison. The action is faster and the graphics are more interesting. I dig it when the bird of death turns into the "plasma pong ball of wrath" (or whatever) Plus, the spacebar bug is fixed? Hooray! That bug has been around for decades! Excellent! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krawhitham #17 Posted July 21, 2003 Who owns the rights? ha! Honestly, that comment/topic is getting a little old. <nuff said> Go look at other posts by krawhitham. That's pretty much all he ever says. Anyway, cart sure looks nice! Who designed that cool lable? -darkman That "S" sure looks like Trogdor (www.homestarrunner.com), doesn't it! -Bry I have no problem with free designs & ROMs, I have a problem with assholes making money off other peoples work, that is why I have been tracking down all the copyright owners and snail mailing them detailed information of their copyrights being infringe upon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZylonBane #18 Posted July 21, 2003 You got beat up a lot in school, didn't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #19 Posted July 21, 2003 I have no problem with free designs & ROMs, I have a problem with assholes making money off other peoples work, that is why I have been tracking down all the copyright owners and snail mailing them detailed information of their copyrights being infringe upon Wow you really have no life do you? Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Eidolon #20 Posted July 21, 2003 It seems to me that Sunmark is being paid not for the content of the cartridges, but for the not inconsiderable labor of transferring the game to a cartridge format compatible with all major systems. Virtually everyone here could play these games on an emulator for free if that was all that concerned them. It's the "value added" of having the game in cart format and not the intellectual property for which people are willing to pay. Consider--if someone offered to sell .atr files of these games, how much money wold they make off of it? Not much I would venture... Personally, I think Sunmark provides a valuable service, although not one likely to be around forever due to the "grey market" nature of the carts. --The Eidolon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan #21 Posted July 21, 2003 It seems to me that Sunmark is being paid not for the content of the cartridges, but for the not inconsiderable labor of transferring the game to a cartridge format compatible with all major systems. Virtually everyone here could play these games on an emulator for free if that was all that concerned them. It's the "value added" of having the game in cart format and not the intellectual property for which people are willing to pay. It's probably easier to say that the Multi-Carts are more for value, since the individual titles are more incidental, and what's being offered is the idea of a collection. The single games being sold at retail cost is a little more blantant exploitation of the software. In that case one person's re-published work is responsible for the full value of the product. I'm not going to write any letters, or make any phone calls, or fax my congressman, or make pickett signs, or lie down in traffic, or throw red paint on people's 800's, though. -Bry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cvo #22 Posted July 21, 2003 I have no problem with free designs & ROMs, I have a problem with assholes making money off other peoples work, that is why I have been tracking down all the copyright owners and snail mailing them detailed information of their copyrights being infringe upon Try getting out of your mom's basement once in a while, dude. ;P :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devils advocate #23 Posted July 21, 2003 Who owns the rights? ha! Honestly, that comment/topic is getting a little old. Go look at other posts by krawhitham. That's pretty much all he ever says. Anyway, cart sure looks nice! Who designed that cool lable? -darkman That "S" sure looks like Trogdor (www.homestarrunner.com), doesn't it! -Bry I have no problem with free designs & ROMs, I have a problem with assholes making money off other peoples work, that is why I have been tracking down all the copyright owners and snail mailing them detailed information of their copyrights being infringe upon Hmmm... As most here know, I am extremely anti pirating, be it software or music. This guy is going about it the wrong way though. Preach it, inform people, enlighten people...Whatever you want. BUT, Don't waste your time "narcing" on people. Do you phone the police if you see a speeder? Do you phone the police for a Jay walker? Pirating is a crime. Yes. But there are more positive ways to present your views. While many on this site have slammed me for being so adamant about my views, which many see as wrong, I also realize that "narcing" on people doesn't help anything. I never have. But, if promoting your views makes ONE single person, even THINK about what they are doing, then kudos to you. You have made a point. Let the authorities deal out monetary punishment if you like. They are also quite capable of searching out the crimes. I would think that they probably have much bigger fish to fry. If it's the morality of it that bothers you. Don't worry about Sunmarks morality. That is theirs to deal with. If they think it is morally acceptable to profit off others designs, so be it. If the copyright holders decide that it's getting out of hand, they'll make a cease and desist. Then the morality issue will be decided for Sunmark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan #24 Posted July 21, 2003 I don't think this has much to do with standing up for the authors. I don't think krawhitham is out there trying to shut down piracy websites and such. What makes him mad is someone charging for a cartridge. It's about punishing the "assholes". -Bry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devils advocate #25 Posted July 21, 2003 I don't think this has much to do with standing up for the authors. I don't think krawhitham is out there trying to shut down piracy websites and such. What makes him mad is someone charging for a cartridge. It's about punishing the "assholes". -Bry Well, a copyright infringer is not neccessarily an asshole. Inconsiderate yes, a thief perhaps. But many of my best friends are thieves of music, and they are not assholes. Mostly just uneducated, and for some, stealing only hits home when it is done to them..Not when they are actual doing it. krawhitham would do much better by not reporting the fact that he is tattling on people. Who knows who may tattle on him for whatever law he may break. What goes around comes around. Again, he would do much better promoting his arguement by debating it. Or using real knowledge to promote his point. Tattling will just make people spiteful. That just makes the problerm worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites