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Defining moment you HAD to have an Amiga?

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2 hours ago, youxia said:

S'funny, back in 1995 my feelings were completely the other way around. I was looking at Doom et al and sulking that my poor A500 will never be able to do this :) I'd swap it for an 486 in a heartbeat.

That's what made me finally decide to jump to PC too, but 1980's PC hardware was boring for anyone into gaming

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At what point did the PC become exciting for games? For the masses I mean. Personally it was the beginning/middle of the 486 era for me. But I'm sure it started happening earlier. 386SX-16 maybe? 386DX-40?

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Amiga was the Queen of "serious" gaming for a few years, I'd say between 87-91/2. But once PC got the Soundblaster, SVGA, and games like Ultima Underworld, it was all she wrote.

 

As for specs it's hard to say since you couldn't really play Doom on a weak 386, unless it was stamp-sized screen size. I do recall playing Wolfenstein on my friends 286 though, and that was another thing Amiga couldn't pull off. 486 era would be probably a good call, though it's also price-relative....not  many people could afford such rigs early on. So that's why Amiga was still kinda going on till 1995, with some nice games, but I knew this is a prolonged swansong.

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28 minutes ago, Keatah said:

At what point did the PC become exciting for games? For the masses I mean. Personally it was the beginning/middle of the 486 era for me. But I'm sure it started happening earlier. 386SX-16 maybe? 386DX-40?

There was a few innovations that raised the PC's gaming profile:

VGA: 1987     PC could deliver graphics that exceeded Atari ST/Amiga, but didn't always have the speed required for gaming (see VLB below)

Ad-lib: 1987    (Mostly a music card, not great for Sound Effects)

Soundblaster (8-bit): 1989   (included ad-lib and digital sound playback)

Soundblaster 16:  1992

Vesa local bus: (486 only) 1992 (made fast screen updates possible that older ISA cards struggled with)

 

So by 1992, PC had everything it needed to exceed Amiga, I think.

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On 8/28/2020 at 2:32 PM, Keatah said:

At what point did the PC become exciting for games? For the masses I mean. Personally it was the beginning/middle of the 486 era for me. But I'm sure it started happening earlier. 386SX-16 maybe? 386DX-40?

My guess is the 486 era, but that is simple anecdote.  Many of my friends had computers in their homes starting with 486 and some sports games.  I cannot recall their names but there were a few football games they played, one of which could multi-play over modem.   Doom was a BIG thing for my friends, which I did not have nor could not run, but my Amigas still held their respect for its collection of games.

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Yeah, I had an early 486 at the time, and it was definitely impressive for some specific games. I wasn't that interested in Doom, but flight simulators, while they still weren't texture mapped or anything, were significantly smoother than on the Amiga. The sound was dreadful, and I still used the Amiga for most of my games, where 2D and sound were still still superior. A little while later I got a 68060 CPU for my Amiga which brought it up to scratch speed-wise, but at that stage there weren't many new games coming out for the Amiga, and the PC was definitely showing its muscle in the games arena. So I'd say possibly the 486 era too, when sound cards and CD-ROMs started to become more common, though 3D acceleration was where it really took a leap for me.

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I don't think there was a single defining moment, but it was kind of gradual. A high school friend (still among my best friends to this day) was singing the praises of Amiga and how much better it was over all other platforms. I had a Commodore 64C at the time. Well, fall of 1991 during homecoming week, my friend had managed to borrow a big-screen projection screen TV at the school, and during one of the mixers he had said TV set up with his Amiga 500, and that demo of Pinball Dreams running. It was stunning. But I kind of dismissed it because I felt I'd never be able to get one. (I had a $4-an-hour part-time job; I have no idea how my friend managed to get an Amiga!) That was my senior year. I started college the next fall, and basically the situation was my C64 was proving to be progressively more useless for anything but playing games, and I needed to upgrade. I hated Wintel machines (still do), and I felt...crippled...using a Mac. So Amiga was my choice. And I looooooooooooved that thing once I got it. (More in the next episode of Autobiography of a Schnook. :)  )

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Being the type (at that time) who always wanted to see what the other guy was doing I had initially wanted to get a IIgs or MAC. But, naturally, didn't have enough money. I got wind of the Amiga by way of messages on a IIgs BBS. It really sounded like the ideal machine and an affordable way to get high resolution graphics.

 

Eventually I got one, but over time, I started looking at what others were getting. Other capabilities, other software. PC stuff. Wintel stuff. I had kept holding onto the notion that one day all that cool Wintel stuff would make its way over to the Amiga. I even went as far to fantasize that it was taking so long (for Amiga versions of stuff) because there was so much of it and the programmers were seriously backlogged. And I even imagined they were enhancing the stuff to be even better than Wintel.  Just gotta wait a little longer and it'll be here. What a flunker I was to believe it!

 

 

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